From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC3ED3CB35; Fri, 1 May 2020 19:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24F338983; Fri, 1 May 2020 19:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F762440; Fri, 1 May 2020 19:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , cerowrt-devel , bloat In-Reply-To: References: <05410663-5E50-4CF5-8ADE-3BBB985E32B1@gmx.de> <8F8579BB-3B58-4E20-8827-3F09506E0D74@gmx.de> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 25.1.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] dslreports is no longer free X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 23:59:08 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Given QUIC uses UDP and does congestion control essentially within the browser, it seems that maybe one could built latency under load measuring into the QUIC infrastructure in the browser. Maybe we don't have to create JS tools like fast.com to get good and regular measurements of bufferbloat. Maybe it could be a part of browsers. Maybe web site designers could ask for the current "latency-under-load" value from the browser DOM. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAl6st8oACgkQgItw+93Q 3WXpbwgArbRn/3A55C/J5XF6TMECTaoCK2J+4yMKH/ainkW6TEl+kD6/ps8PrIdF gnM7+UJS3fOacG8rmungEi7aB8hOiKbz4APVjrKw+a/sNoF2DzZywL6pNFYD7YPP Z70dmFvG0krUea4EhcQMB/7Gm7VWBRhp1XRwO0nrfk/OmLEuCyRsjP+pityUGLZG TTfmZAlCYPIHZY743vQiwpCis6KitCUxIKmAye9QNpt1sgi46imLfGGlAIY10T4S C2BNvs4EIz2s/piqE4byCLkbvxrCjiv946937VGlOTFBcYNCVAsioaBxIlzfujpM HmmTS6UAYeBvWEDOcdnE21beWWf0sg== =qj8Z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--