From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr0-x230.google.com (mail-wr0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B93B03B2A4 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2017 20:37:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr0-x230.google.com with SMTP id j23so6227629wra.9 for ; Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:37:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=xxx/di/Pn3kqMnUvZ9pOSzemxIe3fDOsgS1cYYElfBw=; b=WRJH7Vf69h0Xl1mxZ7c+ODMI6lDnuzPsB8L5a6zrNJQFwBv4koZ60LPIF6yXW/BP0k 5bQtCm6Ul8cELYjY6GCl0+/ujRuE2kRvKhTZI7I8PIHfczur1tvlY8p0BJdLT+0ihKU2 hfqF/p8NfrfB1jBAjHJvCq6QOhuXW2+VUA4fLfQngFJR/uSrlew6Vkxfht0v2EqTv+L+ 0X29R/V4Ifn2P8bg9mn0bSsSjublxwMI17E+K169s8W5cemXgXRO1mOWs6GunacigeKL Cb/uaPypD2giLkIgU8TNvotiudI4BqIielDj4MIlbZPgSKAU1iCo8B3LxUu0qeV0/OvF uLEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=xxx/di/Pn3kqMnUvZ9pOSzemxIe3fDOsgS1cYYElfBw=; b=V9FsVeClzoXrKL6tOt1+XQTOWHdYx0/wokrn9htbiTB7nrPqCnPqwDmNmOcBSvmjDM pXeBbAwjS8OTRFm+4msA8ogfMUh+EMACl5qH/GS1+bA45OINAbQkMq9yITFW65q+ymkP fuk68tOYIWornZXHlBMzN3nOcZEu9O1/2iBsq0HPCgnG+2L1BFBvzJS57LzlK+ePe9RP jKaTGIya/iLbR0QhtiBMx2YL2sNHcnH1m93dyn9Hd5bBUbuZjk9PtGgBcfqZR9PPPsSo 0XOu1JJDkFhDo2PSooGMu3vg0g/W/3xUhduvW0IGCcC73FVyBZZhsrJGsFXRB0gOH0uq DCqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaXoFfDaRd7sFVDRDyNUZY9DOINDyOkynrpPtlot4YJDxWxVVUii FK3OKiL60wOuKiWCoV1CbRxTw2+4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RFBYrQf7MInD7qn1IB1Iq/XV/XU/0xrkj1DiC8YHlKl5nYRSiwG41ClJ5c03bo41f02WJqTw== X-Received: by 10.223.129.41 with SMTP id 38mr15362200wrm.57.1510018647691; Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.72.0.20] (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.99.119.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n11sm104022wre.73.2017.11.06.17.37.26 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:37:26 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_072A2BD1-8049-4DF6-A2A0-545FF76C0CED" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Pete Heist In-Reply-To: <87o9oe2a8p.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 02:37:24 +0100 Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-Id: <186C017F-CAF4-4ED7-A3C3-A3B1B8A0A1BD@gmail.com> References: <535CD0D7-CB3A-4C42-AB13-548313F9002A@gmail.com> <87o9oe2a8p.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Flent test hardware X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2017 01:37:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_072A2BD1-8049-4DF6-A2A0-545FF76C0CED Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:39 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > I was away from keyboard for much of this thread, I wanted to point = out > that I find the pcengines apu2 series very useful as routers and > testbeds. They are way easier to open up than the nucs, have 3 intel > ethernet ports, AND 2-3 mini-pcie ports, and can be had, with memory = for > under 200 bucks. >=20 > That said, the nucs are often convienent because they have video = chips. Well _that=E2=80=99s_ interesting, I actually already have 2x APU (not = APU2) from FreeNet (my ISP) for testing. FreeNet uses these as routers. But, the APUs I have are V1 and have a dual core with Realtek 8111E, = where the APU2 has a quad core with Intel i210/211AT. The APU2 looks far = preferable for testing, and I hadn=E2=80=99t noticed its existence. = It=E2=80=99s dramatically cheaper than anything else I was looking at, = and since I don=E2=80=99t need video, if the CPUs are fast enough, they = look very interesting as a way to save a lot of money. So I added those as a build: = https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MVxGsreiGKNXhfkMIheNFrH_GVllFfiH9R= U5ws5l_aY/edit#gid=3D199471438 = Basically I could get two of those for one of most anything I was = looking at. Thanks for that idea!= --Apple-Mail=_072A2BD1-8049-4DF6-A2A0-545FF76C0CED Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Nov 7, 2017, at 1:39 AM, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> = wrote:

I was away = from keyboard for much of this thread, I wanted to point out
that I find the pcengines apu2 series very useful as routers = and
testbeds. They are way easier to open up than the = nucs, have 3 intel
ethernet ports, AND 2-3 mini-pcie = ports, and can be had, with memory for
under 200 bucks.

That said, the nucs are often convienent = because they have video chips.

Well _that=E2=80=99s_ interesting, I actually already have 2x = APU (not APU2) from FreeNet (my ISP) for testing. FreeNet uses these as = routers.

But, = the APUs I have are V1 and have a dual core with Realtek 8111E, where = the APU2 has a quad core with Intel i210/211AT. The APU2 looks far = preferable for testing, and I hadn=E2=80=99t noticed its existence. = It=E2=80=99s dramatically cheaper than anything else I was looking at, = and since I don=E2=80=99t need video, if the CPUs are fast enough, they = look very interesting as a way to save a lot of money.

So I added those as a = build:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MVxGsreiGKNXhfkMIheNFrH= _GVllFfiH9RU5ws5l_aY/edit#gid=3D199471438

Basically I could get two of those for = one of most anything I was looking at. Thanks for that = idea!
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