From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: moeller0 <moeller0@gmx.de>, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, "Dave Täht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
ath10k <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
"codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
"Jonathan Morton" <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
"Roman Yeryomin" <leroi.lists@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 13:33:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160506133323.0b190f47@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <542135C7-D7CC-4E33-B35B-C2AD259FA5AB@gmx.de>
On Fri, 6 May 2016 10:41:53 +0200 moeller0 <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
> Speaking out of total ignorance, I ask why not account
> GRO/GSO packets by the number of their fragments against the packet
> limit? Counting a 64kB packets as equivalent to a 64B packet probably
> is the right thing if one tries to account for the work the OS needs
> to perform to figure out what to do with the packet, but for limiting
> the memory consumption it introduces an impressive/manly level of
> uncertainty (2 orders of magnitude).
Looking at the drop code in fq_codel:
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v4.6-rc6/net/sched/sch_fq_codel.c#L136
It looks like we are finding the "fat" flow to drop from based on
number of bytes queued. And AFAIK skb->len also account for the total
length of all GSO packets (Eric?)
Even better, we are using qdisc_pkt_len(skb), which also account for
the GSO headers in qdisc_pkt_len_init().
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/v4.6-rc6/net/core/dev.c#L2993
If anything, the GSO packets get hit harder by the fq_codel_drop
function, as we drop the entire GSO skb.
Is the issue you are raising that the 1024 packet limit, would allow
1024 x 64K bytes to be queued before the drop kicks in? (Resulting in
using too much memory on your small device).
--
Best regards,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer
MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
Author of http://www.iptv-analyzer.org
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-01 3:41 [Make-wifi-fast] " Dave Taht
2016-05-01 4:46 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01 5:08 ` Ben Greear
2016-05-01 5:23 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-01 14:47 ` dpreed
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2016-05-01 15:51 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-02 14:03 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 18:40 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-02 20:17 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] " Isaac Konikoff
2016-05-05 13:55 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 14:55 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 19:47 ` David Lang
2016-05-01 17:59 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] " Eric Dumazet
2016-05-01 18:20 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01 18:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-01 19:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 7:47 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-01 20:35 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01 20:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 14:18 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 15:43 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 16:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 17:08 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-02 17:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 14:32 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 14:53 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 15:32 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 16:07 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 16:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-05 17:39 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 18:16 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 18:33 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 16:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 16:25 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 16:42 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 10:55 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 19:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 19:41 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06 8:41 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 11:33 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2016-05-06 11:46 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 13:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-06 15:25 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 15:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-06 16:30 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 9:42 ` [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 12:47 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 18:43 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 18:56 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 19:43 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-15 22:34 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-15 23:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-15 23:27 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16 8:12 ` David Lang
2016-05-16 8:26 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16 8:46 ` David Lang
2016-05-16 10:34 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [OpenWrt-Devel] " Sebastian Moeller
2016-05-16 8:14 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-16 16:04 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-16 19:46 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-07 9:57 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-05-15 22:47 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-03 2:26 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood Dave Taht
2016-05-03 5:21 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-03 12:39 ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 12:50 ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 13:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-03 15:37 ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 17:37 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-03 17:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-03 18:11 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-01 18:26 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-01 22:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 14:09 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 15:42 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 13:47 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:01 ` Eric Dumazet
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