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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	codel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv2 1/2] mac80211: implement fair queuing per txq
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:03:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2233FCEB-7412-4F22-B262-068AFBB2FDCB@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+BoTQmkGhyPGRuT8GJOfdYyGGckZZA0JMZF+G3uk8KGAwLKvg@mail.gmail.com>


> On 6 Apr, 2016, at 08:35, Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com> wrote:
> 
> Packets can be destined to different stations/txqs. At enqueue time I
> do a partial hash of a packet to get an "index" which I then use to
> address a txq_flow from per-radio list (out of 4096 of them). You can
> end up with a situtation like this:
> - packet A hashing to X destined to txq P which is VI
> - packet B hashing to X destined to txq Q which is BK
> 
> You can't use the same txq_flow for both A and B because you want to
> maintain packets per txqs more than you want to maintain them per flow
> (you don't want to queue BK traffic onto VI or vice versa as an
> artifact, do you? ;). When a txq_flow doesn't have a txqi it is bound.
> Later, if a collision happens (i.e. resulting txq_flow has non-NULL
> txqi) the "embedded" per-txq flow is used:
> 
>  struct txq_info {
> -     struct sk_buff_head queue;
> +     struct txq_flow flow; // <--- this
> 
> When txq_flow becomes empty its txqi is reset.
> 
> The embedded flow is otherwise treated like any other flow, i.e. it
> can be linked to old_flows and new_flows.

This smells like a very fragile and complex solution to the collision problem.  You may want to look at how Cake solves it.

I use a separate pool of flows per traffic class (essentially, VO/VI/BE/BK), and there is also a set-associative hash to take care of the birthday problem.  The latter has an order-of-magnitude effect on the general flow collision rate once you get into the tens of flows, for very little CPU cost.

 - Jonathan Morton


  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-06  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-16 10:17 [Make-wifi-fast] [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFCv2 1/3] mac80211: implement fq_codel for software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-03-22  1:35   ` David Lang
2016-03-22  6:51     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFCv2 2/3] ath10k: report per-station tx/rate rates to mac80211 Michal Kazior
2016-03-24  7:19   ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24  7:49     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-24 12:23       ` Mohammed Shafi Shajakhan
2016-03-24 12:31         ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:17 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFCv2 3/3] ath10k: use ieee80211_tx_schedule() Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 10:26 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFCv2 0/3] mac80211: implement fq codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-16 15:37   ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:36     ` Dave Taht
2016-03-16 18:55       ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-16 19:48         ` Jasmine Strong
2016-03-17  8:55           ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17 11:12             ` Bob Copeland
2016-03-17 17:00             ` Dave Taht
2016-03-17 17:24               ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] " Rick Jones
2016-03-21 11:57               ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:43       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-17  9:03     ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH 0/2] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27   ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH 1/2] mac80211: implement fair queuing per txq Michal Kazior
     [not found]     ` <CAHqTa-0yEFYAFpSKyko1ET33GsN==_D8TpBeq6AtwLj4XMTW0A@mail.gmail.com>
2016-04-11  7:25       ` Michal Kazior
2016-03-25  9:27   ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH 2/2] mac80211: expose some txq/fq internals and knobs via debugfs Michal Kazior
2016-03-31 10:28   ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv2 0/2] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-03-31 10:28     ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv2 1/2] mac80211: implement fair queuing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-04-05 13:57       ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-05 14:32         ` Dave Taht
     [not found]           ` <1459927276.17504.6.camel@sipsolutions.net>
2016-04-06 17:39             ` Dave Taht
2016-04-07  8:53               ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-06  5:35         ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-06  6:03           ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2016-04-06  7:16             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-06 16:46               ` Jonathan Morton
2016-04-06  7:19           ` Johannes Berg
2016-03-31 10:28     ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv2 2/2] mac80211: expose some txq/fq internals and knobs via debugfs Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18     ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv3 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv3 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:21         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:39           ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv3 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:23         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-16 22:25           ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:16             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-18 12:31               ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] " Eric Dumazet
2016-04-18 13:36                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:10                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv3 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv3 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-04-16 22:29         ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-18  5:31           ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-18 12:38             ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:06               ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-19  9:31                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-04-19  9:57                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-14 12:18       ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv3 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00       ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv4 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv4 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-09 12:28           ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv4 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv4 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:48           ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv4 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 15:30           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 11:00         ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv4 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-05 15:21           ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06  5:27             ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-06  5:51               ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06  6:33                 ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-06  7:23                   ` Dave Taht
2016-05-19  8:37         ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 2/5] mac80211: implement fair queueing per txq Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 3/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for fair queuing Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 4/5] mac80211: implement codel on fair queuing flows Michal Kazior
2016-05-19  8:37           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 5/5] mac80211: add debug knobs for codel Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:47             ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-31 12:12           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCHv5 0/5] mac80211: implement fq_codel Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-31 12:31             ` Michal Kazior
2016-06-09  9:49           ` Johannes Berg

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