From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22b.google.com (mail-lj1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0E013B29E; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id f8-v6so5120229ljk.1; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:06:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=12uI5ytVGcZga6m/G/l45aLkKkGQzNIjB9Rthn6OF4g=; b=kKj677LVN4XZJiSStMGgeHhASbTqlEWdE0QhfwZM6yZayKzY4E6b31h8jtzJTLTMAL 6EaWVssWsvYAsyti6Wx5/TitxrZofM88vOHPN8ZpuNMyZf2M+d4gsg8DOag2t3PqkvSu eNvd10VqrQjmvsIPovVr4kX/7AKCE7THUFrK5IovzqEqVoKI3uG4pRoxdbh97GuiH/v6 G2AgxCKGHXFXuDXZhSGCWZj4KiUgyJm2V1Sk/uM2m3GA2rpztN8NO7kyvv3SVb3dVkZU vqaFwbRaD0tQ4a9hAIK84beWuwZvaprkslvUP6n6y1gZ9aNG+A3U4HpDjDw1tNJ0JfIu EBmw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=12uI5ytVGcZga6m/G/l45aLkKkGQzNIjB9Rthn6OF4g=; b=egkyui2dSvWQFB4fHE7jEXxse+fE7rIuvesN+5ev6lziEGhxZaVlX3Qzi24Wl9m7pS rYVHCG4m7Huo6ezRKPW0Lud45jlcO5X4RgeJao+2GWkraHHLbubQYlwfdez+vTJqguAI 25RdxLM4Qj8YQutO0ThLFC6TOD6GhaqIhDWT4PAawndoMojWrrVHeeglqtYoLSsOenVW 0AJiY4MyskZehQa83H7JNiTATr4lyV7i4ZH/ke24AJRfk8ZlShHTyMOTTeWt9Qwzrf95 l2EIdDTbaxB8fYLiKchuzLTf9q3lV79bnpdc2ZIDIPvSbGc3LQrK2AeeiNQiesb3uSQF N94g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlG+8efs1Rr9GIsU4b1cmupjtkrBMqZOzhxgvzu5FDV13X04iUva ypBCUMlSTb/f+EYpJGMxUkY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpd5rhtpgG8q6xHCCi+7eWsUGmWcNWx35Zew+9vSBq5Gm7obfTjtUvBxTY+vUE8xWvHKoINnYA== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:740f:: with SMTP id p15-v6mr14165325ljc.130.1532477177870; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.239.216] (83-245-234-9-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.234.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b3-v6sm1966614lfg.43.2018.07.24.17.06.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 03:06:15 +0300 Cc: Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <22AC529F-9EF5-4ECF-85DD-F9ED08CD3C47@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] gaming dscp codepoint? X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:06:19 -0000 > On 25 Jul, 2018, at 3:01 am, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > cs4? >=20 > cs4 and cs5 end up (typically) in the (oft buggy) linux vi queue on = wifi. >=20 > ef? >=20 > do any of the gamers here observe any codepoints in use? When I > surveyed this a few years ago, I saw very little usage, and what > little there was was all over the map. If it were up to me, I would use EF for realtime position/command = updates and voice comms, CS0 for everything non-time-critical (like = matchmaking, garage, shop), and CS1 for downloading patches. Reason is, EF is the only DSCP I can count on being interpreted as = "latency sensitive" rather than "for video streaming". - Jonathan Morton