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From: Pete Heist <pete@eventide.io>
To: bkil <bkil.hu+Aq@gmail.com>
Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] mesh deployment with ath9k driver changes
Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 20:56:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3859F229-D698-44D2-906A-2C6527000013@eventide.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPuHQ=FDHwwEi9ccpZrddVg9NJhJL70n=bmLy6bAPpL2aDG5vw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, thanks for the tips…most everything seems to be already set similarly in Open Mesh’s config except:

- the disabling of lower rates- interesting idea and maybe the most consequential, I’ll see if I can do this in one of OM’s custom.sh scripts, otherwise it’s easy to do in plain OpenWrt
- client isolation isn’t supported when bridging to a VLAN, which I’m doing at the moment

It’s taking some convincing, but I have a rough plan to dig a minimal trench for a new cabled gateway to split cabins 12 and 20, which is the primary issue. If ground isn’t broken soon, it might be me at the shovel. :) Most definitely I’ll report back as I want to do some more testing on the ath9k changes, once this physical issue is taken care of...

> On May 19, 2018, at 6:03 PM, bkil <bkil.hu+Aq@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> In reply to this thread:
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/make-wifi-fast/2018-April/001787.html
> 
> Sorry for the late response, although I can see from yesterday's
> SmokePing plots that the issue still prevails.
> 
> 1.
> You should definitely not allow rates as low as 1Mb/s considering:
> * plots of signal vs. rate,
> * topology of closely packed cabins;
> * mostly static, noise-free camp ground.
> 
> Almost all of your clients were able to link with >20Mb/s even at
> 70-80dBm. Those below were probably just idling. I'd limit the network
> to 802.11g/n-only, and would even consider disabling all rates below
> 12Mb/s.
> 
> This should help both in working around imperfect schedulers and
> clients roaming.
> 
> You could double check the coverage afterwards with a simple site
> survey. You may also test whether disassoc_low_ack makes things more
> stable around the edge.
> 
> Despite the recently introduced air fairness patches, most other
> points are still valid from these earlier articles due to pathological
> schedulers:
> http://divdyn.com/disable-lower-legacy-data-rates/
> https://blogs.cisco.com/wireless/wi-fi-taxes-digging-into-the-802-11b-penalty
> https://www.networkworld.com/article/2230601/cisco-subnet/dropping-legacy-802-11-support-from-your-infrastructure--part-2-.html
> 
> Disabling 802.11/b modulation also brings the added benefit of
> occupying less bandwidth (16.5-20 OFDM vs. 22 Barker/CCK), enabling
> the previously mentioned channel spacing of 1-5-9-13.
> 
> https://wifinigel.blogspot.hu/2013/02/adjacent-channel-interference.html
> 
> 2.
> Enable client isolation to mitigate broadcast storms.
> 
> 3.
> If you still couldn't split the two cells that work on the same
> channel, at least try to reduce their TX power to reduce their range
> of interference. This may or may not improve things overall due to
> hidden nodes, though.
> 
> We'd definitely love to hear from you whether any of these worked or
> made things worse. Happy camping!


  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-20 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-19 16:03 bkil
2018-05-20 18:56 ` Pete Heist [this message]
2018-05-31  0:52 ` David Lang
2018-06-08  9:37   ` Pete Heist
2018-06-09 15:32     ` bkil
2018-06-13 13:07       ` Pete Heist
2018-06-13 13:24         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-06-13 16:01           ` Pete Heist
2018-06-30 19:14             ` bkil
2018-07-04 21:47               ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 13:08                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-05 17:26                   ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 17:37                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-05 18:02                       ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 20:17                         ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-09  2:20                           ` Aaron Wood
2018-07-09  5:17                             ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-09  6:27                               ` Pete Heist
2018-07-09 12:55                                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-07-09 23:21                                   ` Pete Heist
2018-07-09  5:13                 ` David Lang
2018-07-09 23:33               ` Pete Heist
2018-07-10  0:39                 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-10  7:02                   ` bkil
2018-06-13 16:30           ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-13 17:50             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]       ` <CADuVhRWL2aVjzjfLHg1nPFa8Ae-hWrGrE7Wga4eUKon3oqoTXA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-30 19:26         ` bkil
2018-06-30 20:04           ` Jannie Hanekom
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-04-24  8:33 Pete Heist
2018-04-24 11:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 13:37   ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 13:51     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 14:09       ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 14:34         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 19:10           ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 21:32             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-25  6:05               ` Pete Heist
2018-04-25  6:36                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-25 17:17                   ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26  0:41                 ` David Lang
2018-04-26 19:40                   ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26  0:38               ` David Lang
2018-04-26 21:41                 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 21:44                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-26 21:56                     ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 22:04                       ` David Lang
2018-04-26 22:47                         ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 10:15                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-27 10:32                             ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26  0:35       ` David Lang
2018-04-27 11:42 ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 11:50   ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 11:59     ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 12:17       ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 11:47 ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 12:00   ` Pete Heist

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