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[185.99.119.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b9sm13744281wrf.59.2017.11.05.06.23.40 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Nov 2017 06:23:40 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E4369BC4-D938-4CCA-AD38-DBF65C53D16C" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Pete Heist In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 15:23:43 +0100 Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-Id: <3FA33ADA-E5C8-4DD1-841E-3A8E558BAADC@gmail.com> References: <535CD0D7-CB3A-4C42-AB13-548313F9002A@gmail.com> To: Jonathan Morton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Flent test hardware X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2017 14:23:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E4369BC4-D938-4CCA-AD38-DBF65C53D16C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Nov 5, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Morton = wrote: > I'm currently using an AMD APU system on an AsRock mini-ITX board as = my primary computer. That happened to come with Atheros network = hardware, both wired and wireless. >=20 > With a little effort, it could be squeezed into a very small case = indeed, and the major components can probably be found on clearance = since the Ryzen release. APUs' CPU cores are hardly state of the art, = but quick enough for this sort of job and sometimes very cheap indeed. >=20 > The m/board model I have is FM2A88X-ITX+. Note that the later "/ac" = model goes back to a Realtek wired chipset. If you can stand a larger = form factor, the FM2A88M Extreme4+ R2.0 is another option to compare on = price, though it doesn't come with a wifi card. >=20 > In the current AsRock lineup for the AM4 socket, it appears that some = models in their Fatal1ty line use Intel NICs. Pair one of those with a = Bristol Ridge APU for now, and you'll be able to upgrade to Zen based = Raven Ridge APUs, expected to be easily twice as fast, when they become = available. >=20 Thanks for that info. As for my primary computer, I=E2=80=99m thinking = about what I=E2=80=99m going to do when my MBP=E2=80=99s mainboard = finally goes. I like the hardware and CPU, but this is its third = mainboard (twice for graphics faults), they=E2=80=99re not even selling = replacements anymore and it=E2=80=99s probably only a matter of time. = Since right now I=E2=80=99m mainly only using vim and the Go compiler, I = don=E2=80=99t even need what I have, or a new MBP with a "touch bar", so = I may look for a system like this. As far as a test box though, I think (hope) that I can get away with = less hardware than this. Although, as mentioned I=E2=80=99m now thinking = of running the Flent client and server on the same box (usually testing = through point-to-point connections and router boxes), and for that, more = than 2 cores would probably help. I see your point that the hardware you = mentioned can be had relatively cheaply, so I=E2=80=99ll compare this = with what I=E2=80=99m already looking at.= --Apple-Mail=_E4369BC4-D938-4CCA-AD38-DBF65C53D16C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Nov 5, 2017, at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm currently using an AMD APU system on an = AsRock mini-ITX board as my primary computer.  That happened to = come with Atheros network hardware, both wired and wireless.

With a little effort, it could be squeezed into a = very small case indeed, and the major components can probably be found = on clearance since the Ryzen release.  APUs' CPU cores are hardly = state of the art, but quick enough for this sort of job and sometimes = very cheap indeed.

The m/board model I have = is FM2A88X-ITX+.  Note that the later "/ac" model goes back to a = Realtek wired chipset.  If you can stand a larger form factor, the = FM2A88M Extreme4+ R2.0 is another option to compare on price, though it = doesn't come with a wifi card.

In the = current AsRock lineup for the AM4 socket, it appears that some models in = their Fatal1ty line use Intel NICs.  Pair one of those with a = Bristol Ridge APU for now, and you'll be able to upgrade to Zen based = Raven Ridge APUs, expected to be easily twice as fast, when they become = available.

Thanks for that info. As for my = primary computer, I=E2=80=99m thinking about what I=E2=80=99m going to = do when my MBP=E2=80=99s mainboard finally goes. I like the hardware and = CPU, but this is its third mainboard (twice for graphics faults), = they=E2=80=99re not even selling replacements anymore and it=E2=80=99s = probably only a matter of time. Since right now I=E2=80=99m mainly only = using vim and the Go compiler, I don=E2=80=99t even need what I have, or = a new MBP with a "touch bar", so I may look for a system like this.

As far as a test box = though, I think (hope) that I can get away with less hardware than this. = Although, as mentioned I=E2=80=99m now thinking of running the Flent = client and server on the same box (usually testing through = point-to-point connections and router boxes), and for that, more than 2 = cores would probably help. I see your point that the hardware you = mentioned can be had relatively cheaply, so I=E2=80=99ll compare this = with what I=E2=80=99m already looking at.
= --Apple-Mail=_E4369BC4-D938-4CCA-AD38-DBF65C53D16C--