From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA98A3B25D; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hms-beagle.lan ([93.237.69.26]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M51eM-1bty843j5C-00zGUe; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:04:34 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: moeller0 In-Reply-To: <878tzx4zno.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 17:04:32 +0200 Cc: Juliusz Chroboczek , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, "babel-users@lists.alioth.debian.org" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4F01E09C-FE7E-4ADA-A142-656969C1A3CC@gmx.de> References: <1461849006.60252745@apps.rackspace.com> <87oa8tyhug.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <878tzx4zno.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:yWhzjqKUeRZN/7gjqTk7yn6pK1vUjXQ7LOMZSkiJyZDPu81DStu 32ORYGUoztbPrMSwZ7g0BfxJMwIk/h3aN0oF6hVFemQIi0F3BdLlkpaPfhrrqMx8gc7LpcB 2nd+q4AALc7Zm0xp1c4iazJpKuIKvongBMFGm+OOZfa3MBiLXy234N4DAq0vAxHgwCrDTkY soyAzU7U/qS7zviJP7U8A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+eUh+F/y/rs=:eKng1kwp/UD/cuEgMwRrW+ E82tYRD98tolF6idlePFaQ0iOpNBn5eW8puWM3fZ3jOBZGXHnVG9PfWTH0sdkPD5LR7JB79Ya Fje44OlQZhjamrOuwVAekmtTkxbj8ulqVfm5Xbs4AOfqe32QERY85Lz8HJrnm9T6kFMGm1SLE T5ictv9PhpnqBQGtmB5PzsE9iRw09JVT61sQfAbpHeFlzROaPyUmNFI2HHyFG8SmErNXKFNLd oak7tPB0nMvcq8JgoczA3kjE+CXeR/Hbd2z/TK/FSdNbj7GNLCjHY4mr7lVW0tQAsvc8l4s/+ cF+xwPFEu2t4CvsactBXpTGAMc5YDG4gDIXdYMngTvzLRrN4nMoxqzf8pgzlYtV/f6SOtqweC YuWAp+zMMr7IrR2tMS5HTH+7RaKboZUTCHDHlvrH5+tFxEOkFoMxAGdbxCQI92RfAd93OZHGr AN1BVqSeDmR1a1b9vS/NS0lM9hIGAfl759QNXKBpQzcePDcyZoo8S6ZJvXGJ4OM6WOxfuVPuW RwrHKSsjkdnYlaL/XH86MuBXaDsZ20lPRIO2Rnfo0ZwdiCsDI8u2nLM/bKX1imA3Z+tmk741a qAQFQ5x8IBYZlpXb1vV7bcf5louddegcQlbBxCN1GL2jzBY5Dkj96Gq+A1pGQ9n1+4VHN3oG/ /FxMNoFXtz6bphrAs3u/uzuo1Pk3JNvp3s88F8VqX3xtgpd8BQRd/whIcx61Sun45mfRSh0mi agtW6lol1ce6rwgx1xfVwDszPWdPQ8JqFoUdJgWpxa0C0HKMWfyeWdJDAyo5NdxZ9FeVohpUP /QPO3wS Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] [Babel-users] perverse powersave bug with sta/ap mode X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:04:41 -0000 > On Apr 28, 2016, at 15:43 , Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Juliusz Chroboczek writes: >=20 >> For discovery, multicast is unavoidable -- there's simply no way = you're >> going to send a unicast to a node that you haven't discovered yet. >=20 > Presumably the access point could transparently turn IP-level = multicast > into a unicast frame to each associated station? Not sure how that = would > work in an IBSS network, though... Does the driver (or mac80211 stack) > maintain a list of neighbours at the mac/phy level? I believe the openwrt developers are thinking a long similar lines, see = e.g. = https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2015-June/033398.html Best Regards Sebastian >=20 > -Toke > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel