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[70.16.100.192]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 140sm3272969qhy.6.2015.09.05.07.04.12 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 05 Sep 2015 07:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CC64223A-E1A7-4A9B-8D94-93425CF47B7E" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Rich Brown In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 10:04:11 -0400 Message-Id: <54FC9C78-419B-40BB-9B3D-0EEBD0329C05@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt.org vs make-wifi-fast/Network Solutions price is high X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 14:04:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CC64223A-E1A7-4A9B-8D94-93425CF47B7E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I don't know whether you should keep around the Cerowrt.* domains or = not, but I will point out that those prices from Network Solutions seem = awfully high... I am a big fan of www.hover.com. They're reliable, have a great web = site, and the ability to create weird DNS records. Their renewal prices = for .net and .org around $15 per year.=20 Rich On Sep 5, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > ages ago I'd bought cerowrt.org thinking that I'd find some way to = financially continue the project. >=20 > I do not know how to brand the technical effort "make-wifi-fast". And = cerowrt to me was always more about a process (striving for zero bugs!), = than a firmware. That said, the "brand"[1] of cerowrt remains well = known, and perhaps doing make-wifi-fast as cerowrt makes more sense as = to overall goals.... >=20 > But still - at the moment I am thinking about letting the domain = expire. >=20 > got any ideas on how to brand the research and technical direction I = (we?) am/are on, and why. I tried to touch upon it in this short, 17 = minute talk at battlemesh: >=20 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQWdL2Wu7M-8 >=20 > And I'd like to see this happen somehow - without uber or twitter as = much in the way: >=20 > = http://conferences.sigcomm.org/hotnets/2014/papers/hotnets-XIII-final111.p= df >=20 > In other news: >=20 > I am glad to see the more political save-the-wifi coming online = rapidly: >=20 > https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Save_WiFi >=20 > I HAD NO IDEA that the follow-on rules for 2016 would basically ban = modifiable firmware entirely, nor that the DFS problem was due to only = 41 old radars that need to be replaced anyway.=20 >=20 > Comment deadline for the fcc is sept 8th, not oct 8, which means we = should strap ourselves into the writing console, like, today. >=20 >=20 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Network Solutions > Date: Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:13 AM > Subject: Unable To Process Your Order > To: dave.taht@gmail.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Incomplete Order >=20 > Dear Michael Taht, >=20 > Thank you for your order and for giving Network Solutions=AE the = opportunity to serve your online needs.=20 >=20 > Unfortunately, we were unable to process your request. None of the = services in this order have been fulfilled, including items that have = deferred payments.=20 >=20 > Please contact your credit card company directly to resolve any = potential issues or log in to Account Manager at = http://www.networksolutions.com to update your credit card information. = If you've forgotten your log-in information, please visit: = https://www.networksolutions.com/manage-it/forget-login.jsp.=20 >=20 > If you wish to try placing your order again, please go to = http://www.networksolutions.com. > =20 > =09 > Order Confirmation > Order Number: 640614509 > Today's Charges: $227.94 > Credit Card: xxxxxxxxxxxx0011 >=20 >=20 > Ordered By: > User ID: 31617910 > User Name: Michael Taht > Credit Card Holder Name: Michael D Taht >=20 > Account Number: 25947339 > Primary Contact: Michael Taht (31617910) >=20 > Order Summary > Service Description Qty Term > (Exp. Date) Price > Renewal of: nsWebAddress .ORG=20 > CEROWRT.ORG 1 3 year(s) > (2015-11-04) $113.97 > Renewal of: nsWebAddress .NET=20 > CEROWRT.NET 1 3 year(s) > (2015-11-04) $113.97 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > If you have any questions or need assistance, please visit the = Customer Service Center at = http://www.networksolutions.com/help/index.jsp.=20 >=20 > Once again, thank you for choosing Network Solutions. We are committed = to delivering high quality services to meet your online needs and we = look forward to doing business with you in the future. Sincerely, >=20 > Network Solutions=AE Customer Support > http://www.networksolutions.com/help/index.jsp >=20 >=20 >=20 > This email was sent from a notification only address and cannot = receive incoming messages. >=20 > Your Network Solutions=AE services are subject to the terms and = conditions set forth in our Service Agreement which you accepted at the = time of purchase. You can view the complete Service Agreement again at: = http://goto.networksolutions.com/service-agreement. >=20 > Please note, in accordance with our Privacy Policy, we will continue = to send you notices and other important information affecting your = account or services in order to fulfill our service obligations to you. = Access our Privacy Policy at = http://www.networksolutions.com/legal/privacy-policy.jsp. >=20 > =A9 Copyright 2015 Network Solutions, LLC. All rights reserved. > Network Solutions, LLC, a Web.com Company. 12808 Gran Bay Parkway = West, Jacksonville, FL 32258=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Dave T=E4ht > endo is a terrible disease: http://www.gofundme.com/SummerVsEndo > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel --Apple-Mail=_CC64223A-E1A7-4A9B-8D94-93425CF47B7E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
I = don't know whether you should keep around the Cerowrt.* domains or not, = but I will point out that those prices from Network Solutions seem = awfully high...

I am a big fan of www.hover.com. They're reliable, have = a great web site, and the ability to create weird DNS records. Their = renewal prices for .net and .org around $15 per = year. 

Rich

On Sep = 5, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> = wrote:

ages ago I'd bought cerowrt.org thinking that I'd find some = way to financially continue the project.

I do not = know how to brand the technical effort "make-wifi-fast". And cerowrt to = me was always more about a process (striving for zero bugs!), than a = firmware. That said, the "brand"[1] of cerowrt remains well known, and = perhaps doing make-wifi-fast as cerowrt makes more sense as to overall = goals....

But still -  at the moment I am = thinking about letting the domain expire.

got = any ideas on how to brand the research and technical direction I (we?) = am/are on, and why. I tried to touch upon it in this short, 17 minute = talk at battlemesh:


And I'd like = to see this happen somehow - without uber or twitter as much in the = way:


In other = news:

I am glad to see the more political = save-the-wifi coming online rapidly:


I HAD NO IDEA that the = follow-on rules for 2016 would basically ban modifiable firmware = entirely, nor that the DFS problem was due to only 41 old radars that = need to be replaced anyway. 

Comment = deadline for the fcc is sept 8th, not oct 8, which means we should strap = ourselves into the writing console, like, = today.


---------- = Forwarded message ----------
From: Network Solutions <support@networksolutions.com<= /a>>
Date: Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 12:13 AM
Subject: Unable = To Process Your Order
To: dave.taht@gmail.com


= 3D""
3D"Network

Incomplete Order

Dear Michael Taht,

=09 Thank you for your order and for giving Network = Solutions=AE the opportunity to serve your online needs.

=09 Unfortunately, we were unable to process your request. = None of the services in this order have been fulfilled, including items = that have deferred payments.

Please contact your credit card company directly = to resolve any potential issues or log in to Account Manager at http://www.networksolutions.com to = update your credit card information. If you've forgotten your log-in = information, please visit: https://www.networksolutions.com/manage-it/forget-login.= jsp.

If you wish to try placing your order again, please go = to http://www.networksolutions.com. = =09
 
 

Order Confirmation

Order Number: 640614509
Today's = Charges: $227.94
Credit Card: = xxxxxxxxxxxx0011

Ordered = By:

User ID: 31617910
User = Name: Michael Taht
Credit Card Holder Name: Michael D = Taht

Account Number: 25947339
Primary Contact: Michael Taht = (31617910)

Order = Summary

Service DescriptionQtyTerm
(Exp. = Date)		Price
Renewal = of:  nsWebAddress .ORG 
CEROWRT.ORG		13 = year(s)
(2015-11-04)		$113.97
Renewal = of:  nsWebAddress .NET 
CEROWRT.NET		13 = year(s)
(2015-11-04)		$113.97
 
  =


=09 If you have any questions or need assistance, please = visit the Customer Service Center at http://www.networksolutions.com/help/index.jsp.

Once again, thank you for choosing Network Solutions. = We are committed to delivering high quality services to meet your online = needs and we look forward to doing business with you in the future. Sincerely,

Network Solutions=AE Customer Support
http://www.networksolutions.com/help/index.jsp
3D""

This email was sent from a notification only address and = cannot receive incoming messages.

Your Network Solutions=AE services are subject to the terms and = conditions set forth in our Service Agreement which you accepted at the = time of purchase. You can view the complete Service Agreement again at: = http://goto.networksolutions.com/service-agreement.<= br>
Please note, in accordance with our Privacy Policy, we will continue to = send you notices and other important information affecting your account = or services in order to fulfill our service obligations to you. Access = our Privacy Policy at http://www.networksolutions.com/legal/privacy-policy.jsp= .

=A9 Copyright 2015 Network Solutions, LLC. All rights = reserved.
Network Solutions, LLC, a Web.com Company. 12808 Gran Bay Parkway = West, Jacksonville, FL 32258




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