From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io0-x229.google.com (mail-io0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F112B3B260 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-io0-x229.google.com with SMTP id x94so15453677ioi.3 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:32:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to; bh=nZhVAqcrt42wZoTjMRnWv3sJixKKhdw62MdJZ+nFRK8=; b=lNfeK7+AI7FDgj7gM0zhDPadQIxObKyx3FoqPLXYazsFFdDhH5IH5Wpk+7fhy3M7H3 0Q8Un6uk4BGLTI71TBAbk6ZFEdERw/ljjziULnWFfc44YdAKM3rn9K4ZzIzLC6/kfb4i MsNsQYKJV8I0bD2kTpGeCs5qRu6b9iDK0QWtPjcMUe5Gm0BJNsewExa0DhVxGlevZv4Q tkRiQtkjkp3/RMZXSo+Hq92cWvqpdHWbYRuxN9ZeEe19YpAofmw1+PoFTCm7c8VH2kTr dPmAj+n5L0Vz6Jsx+k25BJLaI7UZfMrhI6+4O0xlmp2Sb0NZd27VEHOsedz5K8Zp4AvB vMOA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=nZhVAqcrt42wZoTjMRnWv3sJixKKhdw62MdJZ+nFRK8=; b=FdHg8u+r2oP3SCe/IdbVR7bQFF0k2GzGcVdjYtoGAgcySLThm8sgT9YxeJ/1yr3Nff us74ZlBxoajO88CeydM5teAB1/j8a7tf9KdDL7zdP0gkWOgiVj/Kjt2D4zROyAxilubl dhBv7tmqcITm2hYMeCus5UcbsEsZl0TH2aRFhb4JwtYPAs/Xogti3GuXMGuM6h4DFPmJ nsfK2XdHiUUzLwcNp8BSlw3kHJZy4Tc8lIT8KG0O3kQqaLLUA4GKlt+MN/m1dkEKcpii OTJBr1YbVvMZEV0O54fxP8SEXxWa/a930bY8dbdy7QncgJoQYjEnFFAlkdWMUayfkI0C 5hRA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC021cFGECUg9OhrdK32xkFsXEbuKAkMbEzVy/0eyftCyFa8PK7zjc9/PsWBJcXJ8Gw== X-Received: by 10.107.183.8 with SMTP id h8mr5698268iof.163.1479612737080; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.5] (c-68-42-142-136.hsd1.mi.comcast.net. [68.42.142.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 81sm1185448itj.6.2016.11.19.19.32.16 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:32:16 -0800 (PST) To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <4f96dab7-3785-88b8-ed20-4cdd68ff26ee@cox.net> From: Noah Causin Message-ID: <5571182f-ee4f-deef-b50a-33340cbe409a@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:32:14 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DB97EDF17DA4E82C33CF4766" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 03:32:18 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DB97EDF17DA4E82C33CF4766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What I think you should do is completely reset the router's settings in the update firmware tab on that new build, and just setup the WiFi names and passwords. Then go to luci-app-sqm, set your speeds, select cake, and select piece_of_cake.qos. The settings file I set you was for a very thorough setup. I think you should just go with basic WiFi and Cake to avoid conflicts. On 11/19/2016 10:24 PM, Jon Pike wrote: > > And let me know what I might do to take more useful data with > DSLReports... > > > On Nov 19, 2016 7:20 PM, "Jon Pike" > wrote: > > Ok, hosed that first one up pretty good. Let's see how badly I can > do this time... > > > Taking it around the block... so far so good on my Archer C7... ;-) > > Chickened out a bit, didn't try a sysupgrade, I had been running a > custom build from Noah and didn't know if that was going to be an > issue. > Also didn't try to save settings, let it clean everything out. > Installed my most recent settings, that seemed to work. Someone > let me > know if there could be version issues there I might not have > noticed yet. > > I'm running on the settings Noah mentioned a while back, cake and > piece > of cake and the below: > > Simply select cake as the qdisc and a sqm script that uses cake. > Under > > the "Queue Discipline" tab, enable a set of two checkboxes. > > > > Under "Advanced option string to pass to the ingress queueing > > disciplines," put in "dual-dsthost nat" > > > > Under "Advanced option string to pass to the egress queueing > > disciplines," put in "dual-srchost nat" > > > > Because of the issues with WMM in the WiFi stack, I recommend > using the > > following custom iptables rules: > > > > iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be > > iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be > > ip6tables -t mangle -A FORWARD -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be > > ip6tables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be > > > > You still need WMM to get the full speeds on the newer WiFi modes. > > > > Noah > > I'm a little uncertain of what parts of what are in what state of > working. Current setup is 65/6Mbit Cable Modem - C7 - variety of Win > PC's and other things. I have a couple of AC1200 usb adapters, a few > phones are AC as well, as well as a lot of N devices. Been trying to > keep up with what's working with which interface. > > I'm getting mostly decent numbers for bufferbloat on DSLreports. Only > have DSLreports as a test method now, so I'm not much good for > decent data. > My PC to eth connection has next to nothing, and most of the time > the > wifi looks very good with bloat below 30ms. > > I have been seeing an anomaly, though, in that I get a fast startup, > with very low latency, download speed in the 50's, then after > 5-10 sec > the speed drops drastically to the 10's for a few seconds, then > rises > back up to the 50's again. I was getting ready to write this up the > other night, then trying it again it was gone. Full, flat speed > thru > the whole test, over many tries. Tonight, it's back again. This > was > on Noah's build, as well as tonight's change to Toke's 11-18 C7 > build. > Not sure what to make of it. Here's an example URL to > DSLreports, if > that helps: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6276874 > > > It can do this on 2.4Ghz and on 5Ghz with the AC1200 dongle, > believe it > did it on the N dongle, will try that shortly. Also, the game > player > is home from work now... we'll see what his comments are... > > Jon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --------------DB97EDF17DA4E82C33CF4766 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

What I think you should do is completely reset the router's settings in the update firmware tab on that new build, and just setup the WiFi names and passwords.

Then go to luci-app-sqm, set your speeds, select cake, and select piece_of_cake.qos.

The settings file I set you was for a very thorough setup.  I think you should just go with basic WiFi and Cake to avoid conflicts.


On 11/19/2016 10:24 PM, Jon Pike wrote:

And let me know what I might do to take more useful data with DSLReports...


On Nov 19, 2016 7:20 PM, "Jon Pike" <jonpike54@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok, hosed that first one up pretty good.   Let's see how badly I can do this time...


Taking it around the block... so far so good on my Archer C7...  ;-)

Chickened out a bit,  didn't try a sysupgrade,  I had been running a
custom build from Noah and didn't know if that was going to be an issue.
Also didn't try to save settings, let it clean everything out. 
Installed my most recent settings,  that seemed to work. Someone let me
know if there could be version issues there I might not have noticed yet.

I'm running on the settings Noah mentioned a while back, cake and piece
of cake and the below:
> Simply select cake as the qdisc and a sqm script that uses cake. Under
> the "Queue Discipline" tab, enable a set of two checkboxes.
>
> Under "Advanced option string to pass to the ingress queueing
> disciplines," put in "dual-dsthost nat"
>
> Under "Advanced option string to pass to the egress queueing
> disciplines," put in "dual-srchost nat"
>
> Because of the issues with WMM in the WiFi stack, I recommend using the
> following custom iptables rules:
>
> iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be
> iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be
> ip6tables -t mangle -A FORWARD -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be
> ip6tables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be
>
> You still need WMM to get the full speeds on the newer WiFi modes.
>
> Noah

I'm a little uncertain of what parts of what are in what state of
working.  Current setup is 65/6Mbit Cable Modem - C7 - variety of Win
PC's and other things.  I have a couple of AC1200 usb adapters, a few
phones are AC as well,  as well as a lot of N devices.   Been trying to
keep up with what's working with which interface.

I'm getting mostly decent numbers for bufferbloat on DSLreports. Only
have DSLreports as a test method now, so I'm not much good for decent data.
My PC to eth connection has next to nothing,  and most of the time the
wifi looks very good with bloat below 30ms.

I have been seeing an anomaly, though, in that I get a fast startup, 
with very low latency,  download speed in the 50's,  then after 5-10 sec
the speed drops drastically to the 10's for a few seconds,  then rises
back up to the 50's again.  I was getting ready to write this up the
other night,  then trying it again it was gone.  Full, flat speed thru
the whole test,  over many tries. Tonight,  it's back again.  This was
on Noah's build, as well as tonight's change to Toke's 11-18 C7 build. 
Not sure what to make of it.  Here's an example URL to DSLreports,  if
that helps: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6276874

It can do this on 2.4Ghz and on 5Ghz with the AC1200 dongle, believe it
did it on the N dongle,  will try that shortly.  Also, the game player
is home from work now... we'll see what his comments are...

Jon



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