From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from family.redbarn.org (family.redbarn.org [IPv6:2001:559:8000:cd::5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CBE263B2FB; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:559:8000:cb:8d87:3b3b:426b:c1d7] (unknown [IPv6:2001:559:8000:cb:8d87:3b3b:426b:c1d7]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by family.redbarn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C54021CC4E; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <56E31D15.4030909@redbarn.org> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:31:33 -0800 From: Paul Vixie User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Windows/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Morton CC: "Luis E. Garcia" , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, bufferbloat-fcc-discuss , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:41:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [bufferbloat-fcc-discuss] [Cerowrt-devel] arstechnica confirms tp-link router lockdown X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:31:37 -0000 Jonathan Morton wrote: >> On 11 Mar, 2016, at 20:22, Luis E. Garcia wrote: >> >> Time to start building our own. > > A big project in itself - but perhaps a worthwhile one. We wouldn’t > be able to compete on price against the Taiwanese horde, but price is > not the only market force on the table. Firmware quality is a bit > abstract and nebulous to sell to ordinary consumers, but there is one > thing thatmight just get their attention. the cznic team has already done this. https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ -- P Vixie