From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F7F63BA8E for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 14:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id b188-v6so12529367wme.3 for ; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:02:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heistp.net; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=+R4zEYRD0OOVtlf83ZjkvzUBijNgXAP97uPVx6e/HEU=; b=Oocy8zkJkIv/Dra9ZuGZ21rm6SLyhV8snyvhpUOYXDRAeilkkqfupQONnlQC9OtdpR xJoVq916nZf5RjJcnoNg4dpYFA5dIEDYlEk2Dl/FR7XmErOAH6MiCYE9JUs67pYrGoIh hg6b7GWcKSO3sLsvQREZtKIitQztIy2RNsIBipiIhPYRF7bt+WVNijANzjJroewY26hv 1j1tCV6J8e5r0znMXCa12rFuzvYZ+tstDOjlf0nAbzqJkjKf+OO35VhyGL+HFFVx4a/0 efyuEzwgPZ40atxvh3VKSk3FycdO8ESsLhUr8LAeLN6fqiL46oLp7rqcxvJIrcl8f4xq WmPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=+R4zEYRD0OOVtlf83ZjkvzUBijNgXAP97uPVx6e/HEU=; b=scj7q0nNjfDqbNNUyTce2SBPAPExWIy6TyVMyZuU/gYz2lJHDaad8s2fDZ6vqExfn3 f2qzHGLEkVHNB7UgsLNsfFNREEIZPbjoVic3gIvUinK8X8bB7AvT6wqPVNVClsN6qRRC LdxOKZC2DK3+vf9CKKBAihACIAgtMTimICaus+1lwfQw2jbxpzjFDGxFmSkOxiZgXB1j bwhSTCOvISBSnSV8dDnpAtGRTMNcJTYGRmQWnVvBdZJfB+CG5zsbRcx/QIKQsTvul/A5 MmXlOHluvdv9UYVmXTUgsAi6sOs215rp3UeyXxuQHsc0v7EI1pFpneOWXIEx1Pz7NFeO swdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0KFTCPCGzyf1zHGGFhXpdoQJ4htpMKpamkkE99tWDvQMJku6ZZ kjhQVmIgvt15q5jydWo36kzzWA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcqBXMllIXdd7/iQOmOuEJ3A3wh+wzPznC5tMJseEb4uLB8d/RPdlBn3wxZjrXXg5xu74bdbQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:ec1b:: with SMTP id k27-v6mr4551280wmh.157.1530813727234; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.72.0.60] (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.193.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n10-v6sm6377706wrs.64.2018.07.05.11.02.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Pete Heist X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (15F79) In-Reply-To: <87fu0xd1o9.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 20:02:05 +0200 Cc: bkil , Make-Wifi-fast Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <663D9F58-3202-42CD-9BD5-3B415E77EE97@heistp.net> References: <9E7E043B-2373-46ED-B122-38A287422999@eventide.io> <87d0wu7rbg.fsf@toke.dk> <8A44F1D4-1EB8-4D46-85F9-00C7307FF2D4@heistp.net> <2EC1279B-76C6-48C0-AED4-E9C4A7D0F004@heistp.net> <874lhdeso1.fsf@toke.dk> <87fu0xd1o9.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] mesh deployment with ath9k driver changes X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:02:08 -0000 > On Jul 5, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen wrote: >=20 > Pete Heist writes: >=20 >>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 3:08 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen wrote: >>>=20 >>> Pete Heist writes: >>>=20 >>>> And in the aqm driver support I=E2=80=99m not sure what fq_overmemory >>>> signifies (Toke may know that) or if the other stats are within the >>>> expected ranges for this amount of traffic. >>>=20 >>> Overmemory is the amount of times the total queue size went over the >>> 4MiB limit. So I'd say that 60 million times is...quite a lot. Is there >>> a lot of traffic that doesn't respond to congestion signals on that >>> link? >>=20 >> Wow, ok. Well, I suspect it=E2=80=99s p2p. >=20 > Wouldn't be surprised. Note that packets will be dropped from the > longest queue, though, so unresponsive flows just hurt themselves... Probably not before they=E2=80=99ve wasted airtime though and and impacted e= veryone else...=