From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qv1-xf30.google.com (mail-qv1-xf30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 564533B29D for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 09:06:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qv1-xf30.google.com with SMTP id g6so628367qvy.5 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 06:06:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:message-id:date :to; bh=w87Puvv20rBnBE3zTqPYCjgqcUpMljIKltym0Lbpy7Y=; b=H1pkKM7dS3hf9SpPxn3EM0HjMV3kia4sPw9unhPajcMUKw4Tgc25Gt8QSqJ064yO0G UX20of+/8lkiIZMaSnBJzHqvE6laHCpF7TJhOt7TVg9rJlZ6gZtsbF9h4ltBraC/L4zP f64od78jJoPGUngsupAlrJzUSwqMHUlygMRMHuJSCicy2eDX7V8ly0ulPYuU8QffsDwz EAPq7+igAcDy5VwgzBZ/AxlgrNGSSvQ1SAUUSzi+V94lUxfPQMaUtqWPMTE6g2fd3OPG 3CECBvT8AN0wBRh/io9GSDWpVxYb+U4K93TRbJ2PGKoYAIMdBrfvWVtuNiqhh4EaSoC6 zIAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:message-id:date:to; bh=w87Puvv20rBnBE3zTqPYCjgqcUpMljIKltym0Lbpy7Y=; b=TyvruqQoy+Nm4LNa91HEUMDF8eCG/7Xg8TPnC0am1dkdUq7xyBNvmHaaVwu5gm6Uu0 12ovWQx8uFUwgKXsQ2KiF+51zAhFtVn3pJazGmaFEBS48ZiJ1KYi2ZtjbH3IVSPHHbUM EvtX01gGPCC6RNtTxay0QRTRBC3KIrh5sokejVWwE2jwYhCRBsKV0KuINxROhfNwoBws VAzaaFD8Z/nO9pAstFvU0UL8TJXQNilVm6GuiJ98lvOrXaxO26N4L7rvfCI88rN07kuC jEkEvRDkFAYgegc17rheOm4s5LReia2CJfNdvn35wZqQKwW30JEKX6KdxVkGEhtKOFFb 4m8A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAX7xV/7aOIpWlHBUCKrWrbi4fx+x3am9xGVuWwOKKKAIDIukFX6 SEMpJqCtR74rUhdyLGXVOm95j3srtyc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqws7yxWYyCV3TpbpEkqQuj4zUstN3bFlFJXe5qbCMeGzszh2MhkFblp7lfVy+e1kI1xhyXr+Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:6aa:: with SMTP id s10mr2955209qvz.138.1579874777598; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 06:06:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-10337.lan (114-250-182-166.mobile.uscc.com. [166.182.250.114]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z6sm3049152qkz.101.2020.01.24.06.06.16 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 24 Jan 2020 06:06:16 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Message-Id: <69103D46-8F04-4468-802B-142CC2DABF0F@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 09:06:13 -0500 To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] Wi-Fi 6 - how many of our assumptions does it violate? X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 14:06:18 -0000 I saw this overview of the now-in-testing Wi-Fi 6 at = https://www.howtogeek.com/368332/wi-fi-6-what%E2%80%99s-different-and-why-= it-matters/ Its multiple MIMO streams and maybe talking to multiple devices at a = time seem as if they might be outside the assumptions we use.