From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x22b.google.com (mail-lf0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13E303B25E for ; Mon, 9 May 2016 22:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id m64so219764104lfd.1 for ; Mon, 09 May 2016 19:25:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=IAinvfjbCfSrCC+kz0VpmOGXkluk9YB0XQXfsTaq/OY=; b=oUx7bj+RyfaS5tKx/zWBqEaZ58PCFZyOXuMQFtTyT3lSuTdtfzurR2itae4O4br2Wu z9qjiUQbEQtqeR040WiorZKjbTbFMeUFzOT+qgvYV+iJZQaq16z3jhHteTAezUfQcRVB 0UWoHCMFAK3ARadCR28W4IP5UruANrPnXVs4kAJpBUQEn4vMuSX/wWGNfhAq7hTW37I5 inFKnePq8JUuoRH2elXcUMuaXOG8yrG9ELmeQHRls8A5t+Tk3k/LTIN+33EngIJgAJHD ZeAajBlOeXq+uuj+0NVLNBfoGYbH6Ii/QzcRiU9eYXf0PTWubOqLPKFVKEjlZnNDoNLv q/nA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=IAinvfjbCfSrCC+kz0VpmOGXkluk9YB0XQXfsTaq/OY=; b=SPgNtPziVzLLJMHyLIGVOqhS9XU3ALZyz4CPGmmPmTzbJBSd/xfzNUdhc+msXjz6Fo 4zuh25bCJ3PxyfbVmuyXGyass360ae11YeR48fdLq+AfwsPgGcvMgyFYvFM949P5LhDC sVnQR5a5z9HpnvtnrhRfdbOReRlkPX4u6FyQrUMzImslJV5Hey2KZv/aRdHOo2XxIheU TMG4M0x49M+2DIPDtiukA8n/SzmGU1OAgLD5xwRy69ALoMBvwcdddRJzeM3JVLtb2bKB U+RfNVkOEyMgeNpGXscx2HVMr8GQxelNp4YC38QVLeyS4zE6/7h/sKUAnz3yl0DJ6+Ly 9h0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXVg4qhMBaY/UufuD0jvE8+LdZQ7BcIK46ZwJYbVG9mol5AcGYuG3Wu7GY2ZcrR+A== X-Received: by 10.112.145.68 with SMTP id ss4mr16352954lbb.33.1462847104684; Mon, 09 May 2016 19:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bass.home.chromatix.fi (87-93-84-153.bb.dnainternet.fi. [87.93.84.153]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id dw6sm5637126lbc.10.2016.05.09.19.25.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 09 May 2016 19:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 05:25:00 +0300 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, "ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6ADC1A9D-72C9-47A5-BDC7-94C14ED34379@gmail.com> References: <871t5bpkc7.fsf@toke.dk> To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Diagram of the ath9k TX path X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 02:25:06 -0000 > On 9 May, 2016, at 18:35, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > should we always wait a little bit to see if we can form an aggregate? I thought the consensus on this front was =E2=80=9Cno=E2=80=9D, as long = as we=E2=80=99re making the decision when we have an immediate transmit = opportunity. If we *don=E2=80=99t* have an immediate transmit opportunity, then we = *must* wait regardless, and maybe some other packets will arrive which = can then be aggregated. - Jonathan Morton