From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65F8B3B29E; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 10:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from compute7.internal (compute7.nyi.internal [10.202.2.47]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id C841CA3E; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 10:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute7.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 26 Feb 2021 10:27:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lochnair.net; h= subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type; s=fm2; bh=q65TEQQcY+MEbQQTixxnkLsV4eq MPP9Wb1nnAtFL2z8=; b=jhMOuzfT6wlmNskM3InPfr1bb2LafAvpeQc+yRHvBEW 8IjvJECxKW5tZn4GAKflIRtSwFLs6XnB9KO9m1EJNnfYaZT4eAhgDVmP49z7B3ml nZEL0GFEa1WiP77EHCVHaZu7YvFsvyFGU3jsbaFTzUdSx3D7TB8aPOHV7U9Mpx75 zBQCQGBolcENySVHuohfZlT1WdNjM+E1I3QmK/dURRpPBbdjexeT0bnj6THWAmkd XOFao3DbSCwEIHwDwk69M6CGJIb/Ryqp2XhokV7I2tRxWh3SIu4aFzNQ1QujjQQY mBl+4xW249UBDy1jlTk9WNgh/t07rBFFIK50EFMVTnw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=q65TEQ QcY+MEbQQTixxnkLsV4eqMPP9Wb1nnAtFL2z8=; b=FnPV4IFuuf/E/lVduNrdWl ww4z7S2vE0MmLcyzc2LvdzSCmZHKWHrRez3Ps8meLCanTYaN+2CIPHMyDYsYwV8K Jql4MtnZiv3yh9RSPrP+WwOBjQpzNdUMeFYsdjjk52Dw6IjZdWokNxmzJwY/F6PQ 8Lig42wE+bMKWht80sgnhn0cTaZET6KrF0DPWJB7RmEVkP6Bxik0k6wYHC4s8xbE 7djxMJJeyr+U/RztlcpAdAMzhg5Jd+RyTkksYd412IjO8L/FevdiH6olqAiBZGRd sJseYdw3wBypAJiJoJvh4RKhQYuUEp9eMYkVm4Yms6wKX08jDOmSiCqavblmgcrA == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrledugdejkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefuvfhfhffkffgfgggjtgesrgdtreertdefjeenucfhrhhomheppfhilhhsucet nhgurhgvrghsucfuvhgvvgcuoehmvgeslhhotghhnhgrihhrrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrg htthgvrhhnpeethfeugfejgfejhfffveekueekuedtfeejieegveeutdekfffhjedtgfff tdffheenucfkphepjeejrddukedrudegkedruddtgeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpe dtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmvgeslhhotghhnhgrihhrrdhnvght X-ME-Proxy: Received: from [10.1.100.229] (77.18.148.104.tmi.telenormobil.no [77.18.148.104]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7CD14240064; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 10:27:39 -0500 (EST) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Toke_H=c3=b8iland-J=c3=b8rgensen?= , Dave Taht Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Toke_H=c3=b8iland-J=c3=b8rgensen_via_Cake?= , Make-Wifi-fast , bloat , Simon Sundberg References: <874ki24ref.wl-jch@irif.fr> <1e41ddf7-cd08-4fec-b31a-3021f8111dc6@www.fastmail.com> <87im6h4u2p.fsf@toke.dk> <369A70AB-3ADF-4211-8A09-E9FB77CEE59D@toke.dk> <90a13934-4ec7-4872-bbf8-c6c0f6304ce3@www.fastmail.com> <87wnuw1luc.fsf@toke.dk> <86692246-90d3-4b5b-bcb3-5a67a29d67f7@lochnair.net> <87mtvryrsi.fsf@toke.dk> From: Nils Andreas Svee Message-ID: <7513975f-9fba-f036-2037-f901e6c29af1@lochnair.net> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 16:27:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87mtvryrsi.fsf@toke.dk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1625E888C91907451206AC00" Content-Language: en-US X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 16:08:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] Fwd: [Galene] Dave on bufferbloat and jitter at 8pm CET Tuesday 23 X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 15:27:43 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1625E888C91907451206AC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2/26/21 12:47 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > Yeah, there would have to be some kind of probing to discover when the > bandwidth goes up (maybe something like what BBR does?). Working out the > details of this is still in the future, this is all just loose plans > that I'll try to get back to once we have the measurement tool working > reasonably well. Input and experiments welcome, of course! I've kept to maintaining CAKE binaries for the EdgeRouters, so I have a lot to read up on if I'm gonna take a stab at this, should be fun though :) I'll have a look at how BBR does it, and see if I can't figure out how that works at least. --------------1625E888C91907451206AC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 2/26/21 12:47 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:

Yeah, there would have to be some kind of probing to discover when the 
bandwidth goes up (maybe something like what BBR does?). Working out the
details of this is still in the future, this is all just loose plans
that I'll try to get back to once we have the measurement tool working
reasonably well. Input and experiments welcome, of course!

I've kept to maintaining CAKE binaries for the EdgeRouters, so I have a lot to read up on if I'm gonna take a stab at this, should be fun though :)

I'll have a look at how BBR does it, and see if I can't figure out how that works at least.

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