From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [45.145.95.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B94A23CB37 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 05:56:18 -0500 (EST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1704797777; bh=sTsQelOa7+B4B9e5LzmbU7z8bwX5zPdDjB2rzRSVbBk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=VhXe0Xl0Fngzk9Pg57QxB7QBKV5POJQpeFAidwAPvK3XgJ6xLHVaJCyG2aRbxdWfn Kh/mlqTQ+cffF4mjpiwCEpf7H+UsOvF0Ja6DTfv9v5egt/PbDIix0EHDAdv17lqFsw 2rtDvzy6Hcqezg4qc93bJlMa5H6AaQmlkdbuTqi9qAZW5GlE/pA7/rLkLAlI52nZ7X hXQhqudBiJft2sFvonTZUmNfTzpFcFNy1a6t57ldeRaBJUSQXH109QTfWN7sqm6y90 rykBjRhpX+kNrlWZUHdC0opVn77JEnpNIbt3BiTwDO9oJE8grWx5snPcAkidwe6+uf sWIQuic7G4k0g== To: Bob McMahon , Dave Taht Cc: Make-Wifi-fast In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 11:56:17 +0100 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <877cki4vxq.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] a cheer up tweet for y'all X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 10:56:18 -0000 Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast writes: > What are you expecting from chip makers? High-quality open source drivers, upstreamed into the Linux mainline by the time the hardware ships, would be a good start :) Vendors seem to manage this for Ethernet NICs just fine, so it can't really be a technical barrier that is keeping this from happening. If we're going further down the wish list, "no binary firmware blobs" would be next as far as I'm concerned. Not holding my breath on that one, though :/ -Toke