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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Michael Yartys <michael.yartys@protonmail.com>
Cc: "make-wifi-fast\@lists.bufferbloat.net"
	<make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Higher latency on upload under poor signal conditions
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:32:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dw7ytcq.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <o420hoTQgUTIYiKLb7MurfEtWgXyy0-A5PsMr0LG98llsSYPn3ZVEF39GJ3YekjXeIQAn7GUqeMnSU32GU6GmWSiTnlBtruHTeuWSZV_3vQ=@protonmail.com>

>> > Is this what I would be looking for (I only included the relevant part of the output)?
>> > $ iw wlp18s0 station dump
>> > tx packets: 742091
>> > tx retries: 417
>> > This is the output after running an upload test and getting pretty
>> > much the same results. I disabled and re-enabled the wireless NIC
>> > before the test since that seems to reset the stats. It doesn't really
>> > look like the retry rate is high, but I don't really know what's
>> > considered high in the first place.
>>
>> That does not seem overly high, no. I guess 80ms could just be queueing
>> delay, either in the firmware, or because your driver is not using
>> TXQs...
>
> It seems like I also have TXQs:
>
> $ iw phy | grep TXQ
> * [ TXQS ]: FQ-CoDel-enabled intermediate TXQs
>
> I guess that it's probably in the firmware then. IIRC I don't see this
> behaviour when I have a good connection, but I'll have to perform a
> test to be sure.

Well, it may be that the firmware is doing a lot of retransmits and not
telling the OS. Or it may simply be that the poor connection ends up
dropping the effective rate so the buffering becomes more noticeable.

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-16 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.581.1592302723.24343.make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-06-16 11:08 ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-06-16 11:35   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-06-16 11:50     ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-06-16 12:03       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-06-16 12:59         ` Michael Yartys
     [not found]         ` <fQ-GV16qlgI6k9RiyhVFGrDkwkMvGYE6iQTc4H6y7a4I-HXZ4ZVYRit74qPpcDg8UQQENbp7lZwinIZLyKg_hPx1EArregrBxVSUZR2XdIE=@protonmail.com>
2020-06-16 13:06           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-06-16 13:14             ` Michael Yartys
2020-06-16 14:32               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2020-06-30 18:22                 ` Michael Yartys
2020-07-01 11:41                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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