From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org, Tim Shepard <shep@alum.mit.edu>,
Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v4] ath9k: Switch to using mac80211 intermediate software queues.
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2016 06:59:49 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fb8ug0x.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871t1g4thz.fsf@toke.dk> ("Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8rgensen=22's?= message of "Mon, 22 Aug 2016 19:13:12 +0200")
Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> writes:
>>>> This is great work but due to the regressions I'm not sure if this
>>>> will be ready for 4.9. To get more testing time I wonder if we should
>>>> wait for 4.10? IMHO applying this in the end of the cycle is too risky
>>>> and we should try to maximise the time linux-next by applying this
>>>> just after -rc1 is released.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Well, now that we understand what is causing the throughput regressions,
>>> fixing them should be fairly straight forward (yeah, famous last words,
>>> but still...). I already have a patch for the fast path and will go poke
>>> at the slow path next. It'll probably require another workaround or two,
>>> so I guess it won't be the architecturally clean ideal solution; but it
>>> would make it possible to have something that works for 4.9 and then
>>> iterate for a cleaner design for 4.10.
>>
>> But if we try to rush this to 4.9 it won't be in linux-next for long. We
>> are now in -rc3 and let's say that the patches are ready to apply in two
>> weeks. That would leave us only two weeks of -next time before the merge
>> window, which I think is not enough for a controversial patch like this
>> one. There might be other bugs lurking which haven't been found yet.
>
> What, other hidden bugs? Unpossible! :)
Yeah, right ;)
> Would it be possible to merge the partial solution (which is ready now,
> basically) and fix the slow path in a separate patch later?
What do you mean with partial solution? You mean ath9k users would
suffer from regressions until they are fixed? We can't do that.
> (Just spit-balling here; I'm still fairly new to this process. But I am
> concerned that we'll hit a catch-22 where we can't get wider testing
> before it's "ready" and we can't prove that it's "ready" until we've had
> wider testing...)
I understand your point, but I don't want to rush this to 4.9 and then
start getting lots of bug reports and eventually forced to revert it. If
we just found a new serious regression the chances are that there are
more lurking somewhere and this patch is just not ready yet.
--
Kalle Valo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-23 6:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20160617090929.31606-1-toke@toke.dk>
[not found] ` <20160617090929.31606-2-toke@toke.dk>
2016-06-17 13:28 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH 1/2] ath9k: use " Felix Fietkau
2016-06-17 13:43 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-17 13:48 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-06-17 16:33 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-06-17 14:10 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [ath9k-devel] " Dave Taht
2016-06-18 19:05 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH] ath9k: Switch to using " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-07-06 16:16 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v2] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-07-06 17:58 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2016-07-06 18:13 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-07-06 18:52 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-07-06 19:00 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-07-06 19:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-07-06 19:34 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v3] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-07-08 14:27 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [v3] " Kalle Valo
2016-07-08 15:53 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-07-08 16:10 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-07-08 16:28 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-07-08 16:31 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-07-08 16:38 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-07-08 18:24 ` Sebastian Gottschall
2016-07-09 12:00 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-05 16:03 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v4] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-22 15:44 ` Kalle Valo
2016-08-22 16:16 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-22 17:02 ` Kalle Valo
2016-08-22 17:13 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-23 6:59 ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2016-08-23 8:52 ` Arend van Spriel
2016-10-05 14:02 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-10-05 15:50 ` Kalle Valo
2016-10-05 16:55 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-10-05 17:54 ` Kalle Valo
2016-10-05 19:56 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-02 14:00 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v5] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-09-03 10:16 ` Felix Fietkau
2016-10-07 11:43 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [v5] " Kalle Valo
2016-11-09 2:22 ` Kalle Valo
2016-11-09 11:31 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v6] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-11-09 22:42 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [v6] " Kalle Valo
2016-11-09 23:10 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-11-15 15:00 ` Kalle Valo
2016-11-24 13:54 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v2] ath9k: Introduce airtime fairness scheduling between stations Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-11-28 10:12 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH v3] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-12-15 8:43 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [v3] " Kalle Valo
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