From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Pete Heist <pete@eventide.io>
Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] mesh deployment with ath9k driver changes
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:32:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878t9c70jd.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <B0A1D004-DFFF-40A8-BC5F-532E2F6CE6AC@eventide.io>
Pete Heist <pete@eventide.io> writes:
>> On Apr 24, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Not sure. You do get HOL blocking while a packet is retried, basically.
>> And ath9k will keep trying way after it should have given up (up to 30
>> retries per packet). If you combine this with a lot of backoff for each
>> transmission (which is also quite likely in a very congested setting),
>> and I suppose it might be possible…
>
> So that means everyone else waits while a packet is sent and re-sent
> to a station with a weak signal, for example? I see how that would
> wreck the latency pretty quick with the number of stations connected,
> plus channel contention with another repeater. It may be a much bigger
> factor than bloat.
Yup, exactly...
> The physical situation is that there’s an AP on the roof of one cabin,
> and it’s surrounded by about 8 occupied cabins, each with 4 kids, at
> least one of which is probably curled up inside using Instagram or
> YouTube. Signals and tx bitrates of the stations are below, for
> interest. What I’ll try to find out is if it’s the activities of one
> or two devices that affect things the most, as it appears that mean
> latency can suddenly go down to < 10ms and up to > 200ms because of
> “something"...
Yeah, with those signal rates, there's going to be quite some pause when
the slow stations try to transmit something... :/
-Toke
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-24 8:33 Pete Heist
2018-04-24 11:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 13:37 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 13:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 14:09 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 14:34 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 19:10 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 21:32 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-04-25 6:05 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-25 6:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-25 17:17 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 0:41 ` David Lang
2018-04-26 19:40 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 0:38 ` David Lang
2018-04-26 21:41 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 21:44 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-26 21:56 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 22:04 ` David Lang
2018-04-26 22:47 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 10:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-27 10:32 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 0:35 ` David Lang
2018-04-27 11:42 ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 11:50 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 11:59 ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 12:17 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 11:47 ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 12:00 ` Pete Heist
2018-05-19 16:03 bkil
2018-05-20 18:56 ` Pete Heist
2018-05-31 0:52 ` David Lang
2018-06-08 9:37 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-09 15:32 ` bkil
2018-06-13 13:07 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-13 13:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-06-13 16:01 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-30 19:14 ` bkil
2018-07-04 21:47 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 13:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-05 17:26 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 17:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-05 18:02 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 20:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-09 2:20 ` Aaron Wood
2018-07-09 5:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-09 6:27 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-09 12:55 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-07-09 23:21 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-09 5:13 ` David Lang
2018-07-09 23:33 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-10 0:39 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-10 7:02 ` bkil
2018-06-13 16:30 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-13 17:50 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
[not found] ` <CADuVhRWL2aVjzjfLHg1nPFa8Ae-hWrGrE7Wga4eUKon3oqoTXA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-30 19:26 ` bkil
2018-06-30 20:04 ` Jannie Hanekom
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