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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>, Rpm <rpm@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Keith Winstein <keithw@cs.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] tack - reducing acks on wlans
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 12:44:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ee8gf013.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09884015-6428-4402-BE61-9091006D1FB8@ifi.uio.no>

Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> writes:

>> On 20 Oct 2021, at 11:44, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>> 
>> Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>> 
>>> Am I being naive? Why can't such an ARQ proxy be deployed? Is it just
>>> because standardizing this negotiation is too difficult, or would it
>>> also be too computationally heavy for an AP perhaps, at high speeds?
>> 
>> Immediate thought: this won't work for QUIC
>
> .... as-is, true, though MASQUE is still being defined. Is this an
> argument for defining it accordingly?

MASQUE is proxying, right? Not quite sure if it's supposed to be also
MITM'ing the traffic? In any case, it would require clients to negotiate
a proxy session with the AP and trust it to do that properly? This may
work for a managed setup in an enterprise, but do you really expect me
to be OK with any random access point in a coffee shop being a MITM?

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-19 20:12 Dave Taht
2021-10-19 20:25 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Rpm] " Matt Mathis
2021-10-19 20:31   ` Omer Shapira
2021-10-20  7:00 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Michael Welzl
2021-10-20  9:44   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-20 10:13     ` Michael Welzl
2021-10-20 10:44       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2021-10-20 10:54         ` Michael Welzl
2021-10-20 11:52           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-20 12:21             ` Michael Welzl
2021-10-20 15:57               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-20 17:08                 ` Michael Welzl
2021-10-20 22:04                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-20 23:06                     ` Anna Brunström
2021-10-21  6:01                       ` Michael Welzl
2021-10-20 23:20           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Rpm] " Omer Shapira
2021-10-21  6:19             ` Michael Welzl
2021-10-21  7:18               ` Michael Welzl
2021-10-21  7:57                 ` Keith Winstein
2021-10-21  8:42                   ` Michael Welzl
2021-10-21 20:19                     ` Keith Winstein
2021-10-20 23:08       ` Omer Shapira
2021-10-20 10:58 ` Sebastian Moeller
2021-10-20 11:55   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-20 20:37     ` Sebastian Moeller

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