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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>, Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC/RFT 4/4] mac80211: Apply Airtime-based Queue Limit (AQL) on packet dequeue
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:17:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wodv19jl.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <08f0ed6e-b746-9689-6dc8-7c0ea705666d@nbd.name>

Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name> writes:

> On 2019-09-19 14:22, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@redhat.com>
>> 
>> Some devices have deep buffers in firmware and/or hardware which prevents
>> the FQ structure in mac80211 from effectively limiting bufferbloat on the
>> link. For Ethernet devices we have BQL to limit the lower-level queues, but
>> this cannot be applied to mac80211 because transmit rates can vary wildly
>> between packets depending on which station we are transmitting it to.
>> 
>> To overcome this, we can use airtime-based queue limiting (AQL), where we
>> estimate the transmission time for each packet before dequeueing it, and
>> use that to limit the amount of data in-flight to the hardware. This idea
>> was originally implemented as part of the out-of-tree airtime fairness
>> patch to ath10k[0] in chromiumos.
>> 
>> This patch ports that idea over to mac80211. The basic idea is simple
>> enough: Whenever we dequeue a packet from the TXQs and send it to the
>> driver, we estimate its airtime usage, based on the last recorded TX rate
>> of the station that packet is destined for. We keep a running per-AC total
>> of airtime queued for the whole device, and when that total climbs above 8
>> ms' worth of data (corresponding to two maximum-sized aggregates), we
>> simply throttle the queues until it drops down again.
>> 
>> The estimated airtime for each skb is stored in the tx_info, so we can
>> subtract the same amount from the running total when the skb is freed or
>> recycled. The throttling mechanism relies on this accounting to be
>> accurate (i.e., that we are not freeing skbs without subtracting any
>> airtime they were accounted for), so we put the subtraction into
>> ieee80211_report_used_skb().
>> 
>> This patch does *not* include any mechanism to wake a throttled TXQ again,
>> on the assumption that this will happen anyway as a side effect of whatever
>> freed the skb (most commonly a TX completion).
>> 
>> The throttling mechanism only kicks in if the queued airtime total goes
>> above the limit. Since mac80211 calculates the time based on the reported
>> last_tx_time from the driver, the whole throttling mechanism only kicks in
>> for drivers that actually report this value. With the exception of
>> multicast, where we always calculate an estimated tx time on the assumption
>> that multicast is transmitted at the lowest (6 Mbps) rate.
>> 
>> The throttling added in this patch is in addition to any throttling already
>> performed by the airtime fairness mechanism, and in principle the two
>> mechanisms are orthogonal (and currently also uses two different sources of
>> airtime). In the future, we could amend this, using the airtime estimates
>> calculated by this mechanism as a fallback input to the airtime fairness
>> scheduler, to enable airtime fairness even on drivers that don't have a
>> hardware source of airtime usage for each station.
>> 
>> [0] https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/588190/13/drivers/net/wireless-4.2/ath/ath10k/mac.c#3845
> One thing that might be missing here is dealing with airtime accounting
> of frames that remain queued in the driver/hardware because the station
> is in powersave mode.

Oh, right. Didn't know that could happen (I assumed those would be
flushed out or something). But if we're going to go with Kan's
suggestion of having per-station accounting as well as a global
accounting for the device, we could just subtract the station's
outstanding balance from the device total when it goes into powersave
mode, and add it back once it wakes up again. At least I think that
would work, no?

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-26 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-19 12:22 [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC/RFT 0/4] Add Airtime Queue Limits (AQL) to mac80211 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-19 12:22 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC/RFT 1/4] mac80211: Rearrange ieee80211_tx_info to make room for tx_time_est Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-01  8:44   ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-01  9:08     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-01  9:12       ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-01  9:39         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-19 12:22 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC/RFT 2/4] mac80211: Add API function to set the last TX bitrate for a station Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-01  8:46   ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-01  9:09     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-19 12:22 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC/RFT 3/4] ath10k: Pass last TX bitrate up to mac80211 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-19 12:22 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC/RFT 4/4] mac80211: Apply Airtime-based Queue Limit (AQL) on packet dequeue Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-19 17:44   ` Peter Oh
     [not found]     ` <879913e9-4254-1381-07f6-d860fb0b8de0@candelatech.com>
2019-09-19 17:54       ` Peter Oh
2019-09-19 18:03         ` Peter Oh
2019-09-19 18:18           ` Dave Taht
2019-09-19 20:09             ` John Yates
2019-09-19 20:15               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-19 18:03         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-20 12:06   ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2019-09-20 12:54     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-20 13:06       ` Lorenzo Bianconi
2019-09-20 13:32         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-20 22:38           ` Kan Yan
2019-09-20 22:55           ` Kan Yan
2019-09-21 12:11             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-25  7:37   ` Yibo Zhao
2019-09-25  8:11     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-25 11:54       ` Yibo Zhao
2019-09-25 12:52         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-26  0:27           ` Kan Yan
2019-09-26  0:34             ` Kan Yan
2019-09-26  5:57               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-26  6:04             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-26 12:53   ` Felix Fietkau
2019-09-26 13:17     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2019-09-26 13:47       ` Felix Fietkau
2019-09-26 15:19         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-27  2:42           ` Kan Yan
2019-09-27  6:12             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-27  9:20               ` Yibo Zhao
2019-09-28 20:24                 ` Kan Yan
2019-09-29 19:18                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-01  4:47                     ` Kan Yan
2019-10-01  6:57                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-09-19 14:12 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC/RFT 0/4] Add Airtime Queue Limits (AQL) to mac80211 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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