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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC v2 2/4] mac80211: Add airtime accounting and scheduling to TXQs
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:33:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y3cp31ik.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1535537670.5215.26.camel@sipsolutions.net>

Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:

> On Wed, 2018-08-29 at 11:27 +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> Hmm, the problem with a higher weight is that weight*quantum becomes the
>> time each station is scheduled, so having a higher value means higher
>> latency. This could be fixed by replacing the station weights with
>> per-station quantums, but I felt that this was exposing an
>> implementation detail in the API; if we ever change the enforcement
>> mechanism to not be quantum-based (as may be necessary for MU-MIMO for
>> instance), we'll have to convert values in the kernel. Whereas weights
>> are a conceptual measure that is not tied to any particular
>> implementation.
>
> Ok, but that's also an effect you should describe in the API for it.

What's the right place to put that? In the netlink header file?

> Perhaps then it should just be fractional? i.e. 8.8 bits or so?, so
> the default would be 1.0 (0x0100) and then you could scale down to 0.5
> (0x0080) etc?

Hmm, that's an interesting idea. I'll have to run some numbers to see
how the precision holds up on various examples; but that would allow us
to get rid of the quantum in the userspace API entirely, which is a good
thing as far as I'm concerned!

>> For the drivers that get airtime as part of TX completion, sure; but as
>> I understand it, at least ath10k gets airtime information in out of band
>> status reports, so there would need to be a callback for that in any
>> case...
>
> Hmm, ok, but perhaps then we should also tie those to the existing
> airtime things?

Eh? Tie what to which existing airtime things?

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-29 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-09 16:37 [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC v2 0/4] Move TXQ scheduling into mac80211 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-09 16:37 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC v2 1/4] mac80211: Add TXQ scheduling API Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-11  0:14   ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-07-11 20:48     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-12 22:40       ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-07-12 23:13         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-13  0:33           ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-07-13 13:39             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-17  1:06               ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-07-19 14:18                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-21  1:01                   ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-07-21 20:54                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-24  0:42                       ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-07-24 11:08                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-30 21:10                           ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-07-30 22:48                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-31  0:19                               ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-08-29  7:36   ` Johannes Berg
2018-08-29  9:22     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-29  9:24       ` Johannes Berg
2018-08-29 10:09         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-09 16:37 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC v2 4/4] ath9k: Switch to mac80211 TXQ scheduling and airtime APIs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-09 16:37 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC v2 2/4] mac80211: Add airtime accounting and scheduling to TXQs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-29  7:44   ` Johannes Berg
2018-08-29  9:27     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-08-29 10:14       ` Johannes Berg
2018-08-29 10:33         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-08-29 10:40           ` Johannes Berg
2018-08-29 14:16             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-09 16:37 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC v2 3/4] cfg80211: Add airtime statistics and settings Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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