From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.taht.net (mail.taht.net [IPv6:2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:7028]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9D4A93B29E for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 15:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from dancer.taht.net (unknown [IPv6:2603:3024:1536:86f0:eea8:6bff:fefe:9a2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.taht.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B8F7E221D8; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 20:06:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Dave Taht To: Pete Heist Cc: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= , Make-Wifi-fast References: <9ECF8538-357C-448F-BE27-40A21A5CC048@heistp.net> <87ef95kqjh.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:06:18 -0800 In-Reply-To: (Pete Heist's message of "Tue, 22 Jan 2019 11:09:57 +0100") Message-ID: <87zhrsjw3p.fsf@taht.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Ubiquiti fixed framing experience X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 20:07:00 -0000 Pete Heist writes: >> On Jan 22, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen wrote: >>=20 >> Pete Heist writes: >>=20 >>> Anyway that=E2=80=99s my story, it=E2=80=99s 2019 and it seems that ven= dors are still >>> not thinking about what latency means, even when it can start to >>> affect TCP... >>=20 >> Nice writeup. Have you considered writing a blog post? :) > > I=E2=80=99ll try to do this together with more practical stories about qu= eueing the backhaul. > > How airtime is managed is a serious thing. It=E2=80=99s like WiFi gold, b= ut I probably don=E2=80=99t have to mention that on this list. :) Also your https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-AC/New-Flexible-framing-and-huge-impro= vements-in-TCP-latency/td-p/2385132 reference pointed at preseem which is a company started to better manage wifi (with tools like that - and means to put fq_codel/htb/cake etc inline) Go, preseem! > > Pete > > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast