From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C452F3B29E for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 02:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.154.238.174] ([80.187.112.127]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LnPGI-1ekRj23fGo-00hfK7; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:36:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 08:36:09 +0200 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <2CD4BD56-8529-4134-8702-B6B89C9ACD91@eventide.io> References: <66BDCA6E-D7C4-4E76-8591-8FDC35B09EA3@eventide.io> <871sf495vs.fsf@toke.dk> <87po2o7lwb.fsf@toke.dk> <1BA3CECA-8C05-4E94-9E2A-1AEA3C2F20B3@eventide.io> <87k1sw7jxj.fsf@toke.dk> <878t9c70jd.fsf@toke.dk> <2CD4BD56-8529-4134-8702-B6B89C9ACD91@eventide.io> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----GRQKQIIVMCBGY8T4Y406JDXDKKGOO9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, Pete Heist , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Toke_H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= From: Sebastian Moeller Message-ID: <88966A2D-3C52-4DB1-A079-75260A53C6E4@gmx.de> X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Efx/tgv9WG/mpUDsLeDCzAw0w1IaF3cutGV3WYtYjK+J3O5MCYb q3h63j6kFfHM6jBaUxVcGligUhdknN24xLcThmlDiN15+KagsII0ZvEkvkfTUUprB5CdAya NwnmzsB2vUmu27Qtg0rc0fEvowIgRFL98rWwUxP4/ObhTRg8i/Ee/MTcyIKMOQ5zVq+I/e+ eT5aF/Jx5jZWPnxPJn21Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:CljSC19WZzU=:3JBGtcoPvBJXn3YrMJAjII U744R/d36bVKdzDop0Kofq2FI984DoOVst7CC3RRhSx6cMWAJzoQIquPNOFeRkjkjQLEDrEp7 CQnQY0+nni4XSlQuXWDL3AXzLrK2FWcSls9KQoyndiSOC/C0JzdgprPB573AqR7UtgfIVSGNz dbMuxccPdQCMjFXygRx2Vw9ecRxccPmzjJyPRhoyWYVNuzHiiPv5/vjws/1MYJfYkJOjcyR2Y OlvU5cE7uZH0pSAd1hufdnwJIBZh0JwIzsNLlB5d1n9YQcGggWlB8w68GPRtxaCkC77A22PPx rQSmwYnIr45zmX6/egVoT1cocuCgo6Ifr7mlUmPzciFU74BRW8n4SAqG4WYrGU/UtKnsaxUcN izkMqxWOH7b/Qk5kfzMZWICOm1rcMZsPtISPgedfr2rH4hpP1k5Xaag00PBU+VSEw7ERavmyq FnkEnCVn7QjAMoCfn7weP7vSm0f38EgLWa9wB3YPyZncsOICpkUVbHJmK3VpV3gjjhq40vVEP iqQRPXYaf3ZtvL9dXztHUS/1VGpXnRi00WckuaZIRKeYSyhVptZSiiam5lCDaLGY6/cLyGTjs Kq+oLT8f/Qwhfx5Iqy6/hqfcbZx66mKtEjcZrERaZyeKuVaWYxoHNXG9b6CaomFsXQs9AaSOR 0gHf4t8Gc1iQ+Ix/Azkp4yxyb9geXjFZjDXYQY73R1UYOapzi1rVIsBK1N8L6MjgJQAYYwTCl Es6AR1CR0RQwfGwnWcaUTcgSU4kBmQxWs0gO/ps/P+AR8CXxyQemUqWvhp4RNUL2/omkjcJ4S yCHSvyH16Rpsx+scxEn5wAHyEIYQCjnl7PISeIrtWW2VSqKJLFvY44rdVwWETsXCcxlPxuZ Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] mesh deployment with ath9k driver changes X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 06:36:17 -0000 ------GRQKQIIVMCBGY8T4Y406JDXDKKGOO9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pete, Silly question, are the cabins by chance behind a common breaker? Then may= be you could switch the 'backhaul' to Powerline tech? On April 25, 2018 8:05:34 AM GMT+02:00, Pete Heist wr= ote: > >> On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:32 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen >wrote: >>=20 >> Yeah, with those signal rates, there's going to be quite some pause >when >> the slow stations try to transmit something=2E=2E=2E :/ > >So then, when would bloat actually become a problem on this hardware? I >suppose you would need well-connected stations (maybe even just one or >two) with multiple competing flows=2E And for the AP to not be one of two >single channel repeaters with poorly connected stations, where >contention becomes a problem sooner than bloat=2E > >For starters, I=E2=80=99m going to try to hang one of the two repeaters o= n the >same channel off a separate gateway=E2=80=A6 > >_______________________________________________ >Make-wifi-fast mailing list >Make-wifi-fast@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet >https://lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------GRQKQIIVMCBGY8T4Y406JDXDKKGOO9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Pete,

Silly question, are the cabins by chance behind a common breaker? Then may= be you could switch the 'backhaul' to Powerline tech?


On April 25, 2018 8:05:34 AM GMT+02:00,= Pete Heist <pete@eventide=2Eio> wrote:

 On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:32 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen <toke@t=
oke=2Edk> wrote:
 
 Yeah, with those signal rates, there's going t=
o be quite some pause when
 the slow stations try to transmit something=
=2E=2E=2E :/

So then, when would bloat actually become =
a problem on this hardware? I suppose you would need well-connected station=
s (maybe even just one or two) with multiple competing flows=2E And for the=
 AP to not be one of two single channel repeaters with poorly connected sta=
tions, where contention becomes a problem sooner than bloat=2E

For s=
tarters, I=E2=80=99m going to try to hang one of the two repeaters on the s=
ame channel off a separate gateway=E2=80=A6


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