From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wizmail.org (wizmail.org [IPv6:2a00:1940:107::2:0:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F8AF3B25E for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2016 05:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [46.33.133.68] (helo=lap.dom.ain) from_AS 51561 by wizmail.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87_RC113) id 1bXmRt-0007wR-V8 for make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net (return-path ); Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:38:50 +0000 To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <76eb6a6a-2f39-3b36-d4c1-04198083c0f6@gmail.com> <87oa50acnr.fsf@toke.dk> <87bn109tv8.fsf@toke.dk> <877fbo9t4v.fsf@toke.dk> <736D102C-3383-457B-96C4-D1B1403F48AE@gmail.com> <8737mc9rav.fsf@toke.dk> <1EFE69FE-F1FB-4ED3-B36D-7C20C59A7F0C@toke.dk> From: Jeremy Harris Message-ID: <91752bc6-e6ec-53a5-b049-68ed29ac5e32@wizmail.org> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 10:38:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1EFE69FE-F1FB-4ED3-B36D-7C20C59A7F0C@toke.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Pcms-Received-Sender: [46.33.133.68] (helo=lap.dom.ain) with esmtpsa Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] wifi airtime fairness patches could use eyeballs and testing X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 09:38:51 -0000 On 11/08/16 10:16, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: > it could also be that the aggregates were simply lost entirely and retransmitted. Looking at the sequence of IP IDs should say one way or the other, if that is TCP-layer retransmits you're talking about. They would have new IP IDs, whereas lower-layer retransmit or reordering would have old ones. -- Cheers, Jeremy