From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x832.google.com (mail-qt1-x832.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::832]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 596B23B2A4; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 05:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x832.google.com with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-454b25f88ccso9817971cf.0; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 02:08:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1723972120; x=1724576920; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=B4IcNLblof/Qf1bq1g5WTRhxKm6ceGkSpoENa1Pk264=; b=CBKqkue7aXe5LOAYCANlvyVWzyHcU4ysCq3TX6bCECP/vNSNuU3hQl+dNxOkSufbnB XssDblmxVoiZYJ6usp3oJUhaN+VrZfC/7m7nfPwRO0bcRhBw/KBPIfzESyBuksvB7zzq nMtoEJ8FYpU/PR5zkx656w+tYKknmX5cueTiekMBv9OBSYQqbe6M7YJWWccKyz+v9aNX e8gwYvMjJA/+6giJL+O+h114BYGwUVeRYvTF0roDFQxa7S8mpxSbs2hl4nqyFxZZ2Q7S 7vR7AjxELKjepJ2z/TE9Pb+Bp/DqgyblOo8T0Zi71+yzeKZ8be8c71FppHuw28aU66LZ XQuA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1723972120; x=1724576920; h=to:date:message-id:subject:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=B4IcNLblof/Qf1bq1g5WTRhxKm6ceGkSpoENa1Pk264=; b=DSvZ0dWwFP0DBNCY7io+FC6O0+77W1P81BSww9DCenPvqlUz4ElJZ/aGMXcLEPi+59 hDKziBC6Xxrxnmapeqa1U3ErPh0pp1lycXZs05S3FqbnASymKXY2jeCavMWD8raedKkL HE8xCu7z8GS4nN84H6WH4+Do+kDep/EzqoweKi2p/M6tPOz8+W0m5sh/r2cwi6mLrcjU DgSfSh9yV0cAca/8abSrug9w1+aqpEtQUey16Qr+3wZRW/JsTCvmVC2v52w2nteQG6K2 BSe7zt3WH3T2yOAGv2pfEbXPjEEYS2pzaYh2RF1XBeQJFq1gPuThaxMLUE1J0SNTyF/e JUdA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUVnVnKvUvuRvjBcG6zjbcojS+gP7+VIq1IhDw6yPjAKbJBqOMoDjJVgjML9aJVQdU/3J2sw63u95DyEWtjcYDn7Bql3GmnLMXsTDA= X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwWYi6IDbTBFO9h9BvJ3lEL4mbcuSl5hZT+5nE7w7twZoomMf+W y5M2AxWWrEF1VP7tX+VzJydaFA0nIK3kou37w35B2vg/jHpUyX1sZRuA0Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEfnI4pnWird0AGq2C29b+UcTKlEBnpCbRhBGqxBKqPyIGXOws41ofEeniQb9IaxoryJHetaQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:622a:907:b0:454:b115:f73 with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-454b1151275mr66049661cf.45.1723972119559; Sun, 18 Aug 2024 02:08:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([198.55.239.72]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d75a77b69052e-4536a0795c9sm31088001cf.82.2024.08.18.02.08.38 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 18 Aug 2024 02:08:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.8\)) Message-Id: <93639364-6937-4EE6-B218-2A02AF212362@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 05:08:36 -0400 To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, bloat X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.8) Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] Looking for a citation... X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 09:08:40 -0000 In various posts, I have baldly asserted that "above 300-500mbps ISP = links, all the bufferbloat moves into the Wi-Fi."=20 I am pretty sure that I someone on these lists stated that as fact. Could I get a link to a discussion that is definitive? Or a statement = that is actually true that I can incorporate into my future posts? Many = thanks.=