From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x82b.google.com (mail-qt1-x82b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B9DD3CB35 for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x82b.google.com with SMTP id r1so13114360qta.12 for ; Sat, 09 Oct 2021 17:09:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=nPuBzBbRxFkfxsxOoPi0odUG0mu+EZtQMVAXBpUzQDs=; b=C0FaDRqVLbK21Rl1Sga0Q0bh3sWim4lf+HzearhO+OzBbhvQaKSxoGW1HbvHH/6zwZ q/WPVkojC4AHyzxLJ+jogCJzxarOg/mrOj6Ju4nJOo30xcNo7LBWzzFU/MJzwp2yBf0g NjLwdQRSudWzfwRAnrPfjQYuWobcS7Uf8LBefAlcNuPtbjGxmYEm1mUZ6N1xViFSTWu+ naDBzpcK8VSJjlGlXfWzarhckHgQk4C3MmgGXK3L+cnmoDSUl9pb2ocgRox64lY2ZEAS Cv9TbHRT6Qxp2etCgNZVnMmj7AHjWsepXCi6izSAhKZYL7MWzhM97DLGpNhEySQB009H PT/g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to:message-id; bh=nPuBzBbRxFkfxsxOoPi0odUG0mu+EZtQMVAXBpUzQDs=; b=uwvv5T74f+H0qGrcD0qTFk02SHguRyA4YL8QHMfnM/MMdZAC/Ms6ScQFnKjVOJ9y+n k/Ad/w/RD/QYK0Bz9PB+O0J8eJ45tSMmkpAkDuCKqG8o4Q6jKYiQ6oBVRszV5ehJ+fZr C1jKxMfhDc47Kc72c/Pm2pmqPlAvzjxJ9b5IsWSoHl0UBugmYAi/3GgFT6w2cH9sr/5s 0k0hmOtGkJuZMsnML/zC1FfPCw6oGclCY0LP7iTq10lwwj+fvGDD8BpYiHNDc2zgTmFc 0J0Hue++KPacw+IcnBaMIW3A5o9iUQaRz5pIiTMbWk+qZBHUfP4nCgNDLflBzaSFkzlg H6Gg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530Yzxdl9Qdu+eZcppPbKP9HP3QBkVtB4iWBzPFeQiym/RFFb87G C9j2TGgGPh9ZlTmspaCKq0WY6nHG3tI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxl7bpU1pa8EMOrUU7xuueBw8Swm18o1EAHKBpfyMSFJx7p5xZLJcKKQX1TA+9YBx2WzU8WFg== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5f90:: with SMTP id j16mr6747278qta.175.1633824578786; Sat, 09 Oct 2021 17:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from richs-mbp-pro.lan ([198.55.239.186]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a17sm2164560qtn.86.2021.10.09.17.09.38 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Oct 2021 17:09:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9023A901-251D-4DCA-AC98-6753AECCA86A" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.7\)) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:09:37 -0400 References: To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.7) Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] New Realtek driver 802.11ax, with FQ-CoDel support! X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 00:09:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9023A901-251D-4DCA-AC98-6753AECCA86A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Oct 9, 2021, at 12:00 PM, = make-wifi-fast-request@lists.bufferbloat.net wrote: >=20 > In the process of being upstreamed: >=20 > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20211008035627.19463-1-pkshih@realtek.com = >=20 >> This driver named rtw89, which is the next generation of rtw88, = supports >> Realtek 8852AE 802.11ax 2x2 chip whose new features are OFDMA, DBCC, >> Spatial reuse, TWT and BSS coloring; now some of them aren't = implemented >> though. This is so cool! A couple questions: 1) I have lost track: what drivers now incorporate FQ-CoDel? 2) How can we talk about this in OpenWrt (and elsewhere...)? - Is it correct/reasonable/sensible to say that the fq_codel = wifi drivers are "good" while the others are "not-so-good" - Does the presence of a chip/driver from 1) above indicate a = more desirable device? - Or is it more nuanced? Thanks. Rich --Apple-Mail=_9023A901-251D-4DCA-AC98-6753AECCA86A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On = Oct 9, 2021, at 12:00 PM, make-wifi-fast-request@lists.bufferbloat.net = wrote:

In the process of being = upstreamed:

https://lore.kernel.org/r/20211008035627.19463-1-pkshih@realtek= .com

This = driver named rtw89, which is the next generation of rtw88, supports
Realtek 8852AE 802.11ax 2x2 chip whose new features are = OFDMA, DBCC,
Spatial reuse, TWT and BSS coloring; now some = of them aren't implemented
though.

This is so cool! A couple questions:

1) I have lost track: what drivers now = incorporate FQ-CoDel?

2) How can we talk about this in OpenWrt (and = elsewhere...)?
- Is it = correct/reasonable/sensible to say that the fq_codel wifi drivers are = "good" while the others are "not-so-good"
- Does = the presence of a chip/driver from 1) above indicate a more desirable = device?
- Or is it more = nuanced?

Thanks.

Rich


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