From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x42f.google.com (mail-wr1-x42f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81AF33B2A4 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 05:10:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr1-x42f.google.com with SMTP id r10so26564136wrs.10 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 02:10:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heistp.net; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=n1XdyEXu6pVVfFRwUfcpAajjMFmCdrWzAXi4nexsd9I=; b=Q6F3dGlaioXeGeXWw1PuO+MjtWN0vmRivHthAId49078mwCCRxTONjd823HjTLEHOx QCO2kugAFINKLt2UcMaT5nxTCIzUk84lT8c8nWDfyosHcvw3bCyhnfSJrUCnm0VHWWOY WeSltwwRWlhqKDnP+yW41ceYvR7tKrsp97frPzXWF0Cyenu0t7r2B14mp473YA5k2Kkw O/jo6zbpVUN8lUDPwO9hLqqr8NLf7qq1jJ9tXvtBQsBWtaq4HTczx7QpVF9rivZEZ5p5 NHxfGLFA0NCmCYf6xUKWxO/xX/VCaVsSk4u3a6oWpXhUab4jwmcB5oRhTXSBjQSMvNlu tyhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=n1XdyEXu6pVVfFRwUfcpAajjMFmCdrWzAXi4nexsd9I=; b=hqHSkZhztifKEps24a5yO6PHKfnmD1inXu72N0CghuNzsBzI1o7jvG3f+XWcDQoEfh DMjA0+COTuVxFYC8ODnG5GV+HdU5xwK+KuIuerEUim/yv9vm5nWxcW69wt0hcrJ2miOg o1M99QMfFGlEPUIajFPOnLgph3aQUb4wn7qY07QpiGg8nukaY8nrM0dDamMM1stsYomJ 94ln9eKI/sjy7G941H8BWE6AYiwOW4tq01ccm4/0OOrh+1l/8xOyUs/CcO3W3jsNYn8V iO3f2pgFFrlEdLj3N/zN8z0ylwxfzpOEEPZ4FYogvjKsRFBpNodWHwMhlppKrVig7QBe cUAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcYiytqt+3yoV6twozsgST5JMFhrv2GhxI3katqnMuvtU7GFfOD s7Uj9ShAMxHFBjWkI0zvQg080Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6sy2T2sChEExr9Zl8IH8LQGf3an9hJPOa3ISzBBWJgU81fW2uO5Pn2FwcPLQLdhxhVQ01UhA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:10d1:: with SMTP id b17mr31778568wrx.306.1548151799397; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 02:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from tron.luk.heistp.net (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.193.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v6sm75249312wrd.88.2019.01.22.02.09.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 22 Jan 2019 02:09:58 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Pete Heist In-Reply-To: <87ef95kqjh.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 11:09:57 +0100 Cc: Make-Wifi-fast Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9ECF8538-357C-448F-BE27-40A21A5CC048@heistp.net> <87ef95kqjh.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Ubiquiti fixed framing experience X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 10:10:00 -0000 > On Jan 22, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Pete Heist writes: >=20 >> Anyway that=E2=80=99s my story, it=E2=80=99s 2019 and it seems that = vendors are still >> not thinking about what latency means, even when it can start to >> affect TCP... >=20 > Nice writeup. Have you considered writing a blog post? :) I=E2=80=99ll try to do this together with more practical stories about = queueing the backhaul. How airtime is managed is a serious thing. It=E2=80=99s like WiFi gold, = but I probably don=E2=80=99t have to mention that on this list. :) Pete