Hi Tim, I know this will probably be in your write-up, but I am curious if you are sniffing the traffic to verify that OFDMA is actually happening by pinning the aid to the monitor interface and using a wireshark display filter radiotap.he.data_1.ppdu_format==0x2 to see the HE_MU frames. From my testing it is not something that is automatically in use all the time...it is used as needed per each AP's decision algorithm. I seem to be able to cause OFDMA to happen sometimes when using small payloads with bursty traffic and periods of quiet, but it is not something that I can turn on and just say OFDMA is happening. Also, in my flent tcp_download vs tcp_upload tests I see similar latency values that are both relatively low. I will have to run the rtt_fair_var to see how it compares. Nice use of flent! Looking forward to your write-up. Isaac On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:40 PM Tim Higgins wrote: > Hi all, > > I finally have my testbed working the way I want and am starting to run > tests to see if OFDMA does anything useful. > > This will all be covered in detail in an upcoming SmallNetBuilder article. > But I wanted to sanity check something with this esteemed group. > > The tests are basically the flent rtt_fair_var up and down tests ported to > the octoScope platform I use for WiFi testing. > The initial work was done on flent, with a lot of hand-holding from Toke. > (Thank you, Toke!) > > Using 4 Intel AX200 STAs on Win10. iperf3 is running traffic using TCP/IP > with unthrottled bandwidth. I've taken Bjørn's idea and have each STA using > a different DSCP priority level, but with TCP/IP traffic, not UDP. I'm > sticking to using CS0-7 equivalents and confirmed that the iperf3 --dscp > values properly translate to the intended WiFi priority levels. Each STA > has a different priority, either CS0,3,5 or 6 (best effort, excellent > effort, video and voice). > > Ping is used to measure latency and always runs from AP to STA. Only > TCP/IP traffic direction is reversed between the down and uplink tests. > > One thing that jumps out immediately is that uplink latencies are *much* > lower than downlink, with either OFDMA on or off. Attached are three > examples. The CDFs are average latency of the 4 STAs. > > The NETGEAR R7800 is a 4x4 AC Qualcomm-based. I'm using this as a baseline > product. > > The NETGEAR RAX15 is 2x2 AX Broadcom-based. You can see what I mean when I > say OFDMA doesn't help. > > Does this much difference between up and downlink latency pass the sniff > test? > > === > Tim > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast