From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: ath10k <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
"codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" <codel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 22:23:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw46O3CbURxyP7AENkOCnA71Bn6ddTJpdfzEjWcFKgnaAg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57258F41.8040600@candelatech.com>
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 04/30/2016 08:41 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
>>
>> There were a few things on this thread that went by, and I wasn't on
>> the ath10k list
>>
>> (https://www.mail-archive.com/ath10k@lists.infradead.org/msg04461.html)
>>
>> first up, udp flood...
>>
>>>>> From: ath10k <ath10k-boun...@lists.infradead.org> on behalf of Roman
>>>>> Yeryomin <leroi.li...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 8:14 PM
>>>>> To: ath10k@lists.infradead.org
>>>>> Subject: ath10k performance, master branch from 20160407
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> I've seen performance patches were commited so I've decided to give it
>>>>> a try (using 4.1 kernel and backports).
>>>>> The results are quite disappointing: TCP download (client pov) dropped
>>>>> from 750Mbps to ~550 and UDP shows completely weird behavour - if
>>>>> generating 900Mbps it gives 30Mbps max, if generating 300Mbps it gives
>>>>> 250Mbps, before (latest official backports release from January) I was
>>>>> able to get 900Mbps.
>>>>> Hardware is basically ap152 + qca988x 3x3.
>>>>> When running perf top I see that fq_codel_drop eats a lot of cpu.
>>>>> Here is the output when running iperf3 UDP test:
>>>>>
>>>>> 45.78% [kernel] [k] fq_codel_drop
>>>>> 3.05% [kernel] [k] ag71xx_poll
>>>>> 2.18% [kernel] [k] skb_release_data
>>>>> 2.01% [kernel] [k] r4k_dma_cache_inv
>>
>>
>> The udp flood behavior is not "weird". The test is wrong. It is so
>> filling
>> the local queue as to dramatically exceed the bandwidth on the link.
>
>
> It would be nice if you could provide backpressure so that you could
> simply select on the udp socket and use that to know when you can send
> more frames??
The qdisc version returns NET_XMIT_CN to the upper layers of the
stack in the case
where the dropped packet's flow = the ingress packet's flow, but that
is after the
exhaustive search...
I don't know what effect (if any) that had on udp sockets. Hmm... will
look. Eric would "just know".
That might provide more backpressure in the local scenario. SO_SND_BUF
should interact with this stuff in some sane way...
... but over the wire from a test driver box elsewhere, tho, aside
from ethernet flow control itself, where enabled, no.
... but in that case you have a much lower inbound/outbound
performance disparity in the general case to start with... which can
still be quite high...
>
> Any idea how that works with codel?
Beautifully.
For responsive TCP flows. It immediately reduces the window without a RTT.
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> --
> Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
> Candela Technologies Inc http://www.candelatech.com
--
Dave Täht
Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
http://blog.cerowrt.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-01 5:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-01 3:41 Dave Taht
2016-05-01 4:46 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01 5:08 ` Ben Greear
2016-05-01 5:23 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2016-05-01 14:47 ` dpreed
[not found] ` <CAJq5cE2woA3yb6i_7NLPpxjzvhsVk5uL8BnSTAY7Lp-M0KiPNg@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAJq5cE2K0yrz6ALAoKWu23RSJZX9Y_P7Mqcy9ba8e-L3AVhOaA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-05-01 15:51 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-02 14:03 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 18:40 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-02 20:17 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] " Isaac Konikoff
2016-05-05 13:55 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 14:55 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 19:47 ` David Lang
2016-05-01 17:59 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] " Eric Dumazet
2016-05-01 18:20 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01 18:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-01 19:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 7:47 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-01 20:35 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-01 20:55 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 14:18 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 15:43 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 16:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 17:08 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-02 17:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 14:32 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 14:53 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 15:32 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 16:07 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 16:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-05-05 17:39 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 18:16 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 18:33 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-05 16:12 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 16:25 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 16:42 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 10:55 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-05 19:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-05 19:41 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-06 8:41 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 11:33 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 11:46 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 13:25 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-06 15:25 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 15:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-06 16:30 ` moeller0
2016-05-06 9:42 ` [Make-wifi-fast] OpenWRT wrong adjustment of fq_codel defaults (Was: [Codel] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 12:47 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-05-06 18:43 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 18:56 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-06 19:43 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-15 22:34 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-15 23:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-15 23:27 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16 8:12 ` David Lang
2016-05-16 8:26 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16 8:46 ` David Lang
2016-05-16 10:34 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [OpenWrt-Devel] " Sebastian Moeller
2016-05-16 8:14 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-16 14:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-16 16:04 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-16 19:46 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-07 9:57 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2016-05-15 22:47 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-03 2:26 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Codel] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood Dave Taht
2016-05-03 5:21 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-03 12:39 ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 12:50 ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 13:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-03 15:37 ` Agarwal, Anil
2016-05-03 17:37 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-03 17:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-03 18:11 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-01 18:26 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-01 22:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 14:09 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-05-02 15:42 ` Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 13:47 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Roman Yeryomin
2016-05-02 15:01 ` Eric Dumazet
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/postorius/lists/make-wifi-fast.lists.bufferbloat.net/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=CAA93jw46O3CbURxyP7AENkOCnA71Bn6ddTJpdfzEjWcFKgnaAg@mail.gmail.com \
--to=dave.taht@gmail.com \
--cc=ath10k@lists.infradead.org \
--cc=codel@lists.bufferbloat.net \
--cc=greearb@candelatech.com \
--cc=make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox