From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22a.google.com (mail-qt0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56EA03BA8E for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 18:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id x34-v6so4379439qtk.5 for ; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:49:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q+/ncfonHTYvoZI22u5wHoNOL0OjT0UTKDxYJ3XrLvE=; b=rk9+B68UNGxQOvmbBZLdcfwnTSLJQvUBidunKXvwf1iqSAvIRk6S41HPXp3+C1112F Tqop3BpYEf7NLZUpAs263jeM9T9UDHe/tMcqBYTjnlrlKQLvCuHaMSLbPbwdGbOCoWX7 qwpgTRPzEjGaZnyVfnS7R/2yShxUQugM5JFb/zny80FfQ/6WF29cSH+fuviaRMRtS0Ek EKP63fVacnZDcmFdJH4xhPTJLSbAaapJmdULkek04akFVZ+U2TkE34XB82K0B0J17OfO 2NuDxuiFuyyCqKHaeX0ZTfAbA8cJzR+9UwAVQxj7olOQ8Uk5o9tb/TNxVXrQhi/RKk8S Lvmw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q+/ncfonHTYvoZI22u5wHoNOL0OjT0UTKDxYJ3XrLvE=; b=LStKVUan73e7TKgORG87a8jnqf9MZywLKaqrN1TidAsXMswK/OKTef6QYjWyTgmVC8 dARND2Thb0WhYJJA/dApdJrIGY3fZexv/xh2Yvmz35gWebJhs3NNqnkG7y3ScfFv8PtS RHgI/+y/atzB4OKat3dm5qoo5gw6Rg0+Xn3VeDSam5yvmjczpnJI+XcwUoEYx0YSlKy1 hD16Dii0pQ9tk/yGC5zdBEk3Rari3J2cB2Uw1y5Ov7GLxOdOxUV3xUz5iNbvXXPGcgRe LbqZKivujV6l2/neJ6tXTx0vZGAq1jw3E94BIC84Xh6KS21XAztcLGJgpHoOYFsGXgy3 l1SQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2IaAn7gOwFI+Bnox0+pASMidKo0VJwrKkMz1IKuzO+balvf5zU XbGZxnr/mFPt0sr4BvRM0hnRrJYv1NT8e/JEs+Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJiaTP1FAh5KYqBuVyjW6uB4gEV3u37l4BfAVNDVeChs0pTUy70eKOUNoqIYU+G8S+VdxuWe2BfMlTpxiVPXxU= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:93a2:: with SMTP id f31-v6mr539392qvf.151.1528238980939; Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:49:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:aed:24f0:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jun 2018 15:49:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87y3fsevrv.fsf@toke.dk> From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 15:49:40 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= Cc: Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] I have no idea how this got published... X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:49:41 -0000 well, we can write the publisher a letter. On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen wrote: > Whaddyamean correct? They don't actually test against our work, if that's= what you mean... > > On 6 June 2018 00:23:02 CEST, Dave Taht wrote: >>well, are the results correct? >> >>On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen >>wrote: >>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=3D8359288 >>> >>> They change buffer sizes (but dynamically!) and manage to do better >>than >>> Linux with CoDel and PIE as qdiscs on the WiFi interface. Linux >>3.17.7, >>> that is. This was published today... >>> >>> What's worse is that they actually cite our paper, with this comment: >>> >>>> Recently, H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen et al. [20] also tackled bufferb= loat in >>>> APs with the goal to reduce latency and improve airtime fairness. >>>> Their proposal was built on top of FQ-CoDel which is one of the >>>> queuing disciplines in Linux. We believe that the mesh environment >>>> imposes further challenges that are not addressed in this work. >>> >>> I am mildly outraged... >>> >>> -Toke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Make-wifi-fast mailing list >>> Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619