From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x833.google.com (mail-qt1-x833.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::833]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F3CC3CB36 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:10:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt1-x833.google.com with SMTP id l9-v6so26082119qtf.5 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:10:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gfG/6A+hbAjeVdrdv1tjAQeEWxM1y+V2VfYqR1HVecg=; b=CNY7ZnM+1FqZmSGjh7yPt3nMA+TLhnScdU62BBAmxRaEFD84i5mD97tE6z9R3lqmh0 eiokFYgFbeR6NUiAEw36/uqsFQAPfVZbjrE8nVHZEVYmp1Kh9DY1jEphtDaBp2OnbxfK /GjZkNSnhK8Rg65REgsRtBKDuqYmAwQ7J3DAHM/xKQvHnKCvxOHm9GNOgxKFbUgheAX4 eSyMVYrIwKma0sBDBV1DmFSiOwVHOr+sWy36qVjDx94et6KHLf1dd/zWRlYawdECkqjq 8Xu5HGPwRWQJQzY9n4E7uUmDW78XZfxYoWfUQ+3u+5I5r2G0zoEZgXc5BJMHqhDKIH0D XcCA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gfG/6A+hbAjeVdrdv1tjAQeEWxM1y+V2VfYqR1HVecg=; b=FQu8jL5SjqJVoNuVUcPmPn8Vmmm6NTmK2cZxZXW5QfSAiQ54tsnokposgWqQ7BuEzj wfryNtZiDl09H6FsnfFwq1ki+Ql601hLH5e5YX/XxTCStYHkE+5deRk9IEjgzcia6ASb fg/cM2zP4ci1I55c6e4t4mkfIVtcy71xPX1Jc2PCmmJZzLRZk0x46EyTe3QE/SDVN+mY +wnfpVj7stiF+lJAaLUTY1AAn4d7xugL/zJ6jbiARUUAYl1Iz8NxXZWb5hk39fj+wwBe bk1+wRvnD82PabJ86iGJC2ir254Jf1lIlf3wV6A+K/5i/jI5n02WwJj924CtOoE/FKJZ m9fg== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfoi974su7OF0BI9D0J++3c2qt8Oay2xb+5qoVcLQrecPw9ootHv2 +2WSW4PGtMd8+3cRhyuoYJ6QQ8aYRKfzhF/1Rh30iQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60VzvO4vCCnYZytSI/F5DsMJA5vzVO+S4+P4q3oex7Y1ILDqLTZgx6yOIP6ReEev05/VpqE2rKhUZUgFd/vKNM= X-Received: by 2002:ad4:5252:: with SMTP id s18mr21388533qvq.206.1539702623446; Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:10:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1539702396.449625040@apps.rackspace.com> In-Reply-To: <1539702396.449625040@apps.rackspace.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:10:10 -0700 Message-ID: To: dpreed@deepplum.com Cc: Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] I wonder if UWB is legal in space... X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:10:24 -0000 I thought that would get a rise out of you. :) I do hope spacex hires an engineer that "gets" that the rest of the solar system is a greenfield environment. Is it really just LEO? I had figured the regs extended to geosync, and any innovation would have to happen beyond the lagrange points. My understanding of the starlink effort is that it's mostly LEO, and I'd hoped for insanely fast sat to sat coms somehow. lasers perhaps.... On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 8:06 AM David P. Reed wrote: > > There is no system of rules in space beyond LEO. > Space is currently not a jurisdiction of law of its own. Nor is there a r= egulatory authority. > > And a good thing, too. The ETs would be prosecuting all transmitters on E= arth for violating their regulations... > > Unlike Earth where Marconi's 1901 Syntonic Multiplexing patent got turned= into laws that makes UWB multiplexing illegal everywhere, the ETs are prob= ably not all so ignorant as the US Supreme Court. The US Supreme Court deci= ded in several cases that because Coase said there are a finite number of f= requencies, which means there should be exclusive ownership of frequencies. > > All an ignorant derivative of a (brilliant) hack solution by Marconi for = Morse Code Wireless in 1901. > > There are no frequencies in Maxwell's Equations. Period. That was known i= n 1865. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Dave Taht" > Sent: Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:18 pm > To: dpreed@deepplum.com, "Make-Wifi-fast" > Cc: "Make-Wifi-fast" > Subject: I wonder if UWB is legal in space... > > https://www.google.com/search?client=3Dubuntu&channel=3Dfs&q=3Dspacex+wir= eless+mac+engineer&ie=3Dutf-8&oe=3Dutf-8&ibp=3Dhtl;jobs#fpstate=3Dtldetail&= htidocid=3D9r0KSkG17rfbN-mOAAAAAA%3D%3D&htivrt=3Djobs > > -- > > Dave T=C3=83=C2=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-205-9740 > > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-205-9740