From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x632.google.com (mail-ej1-x632.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::632]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FF5A3B29D for ; Thu, 5 May 2022 22:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x632.google.com with SMTP id l18so11940755ejc.7 for ; Thu, 05 May 2022 19:34:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qjOSQvphnJWz9RVNmYXnjQegJSE82nlSpujOzbLEA3Q=; b=HNwoIvyKk1NA91CNzy43JrgBKYTAFHtWHikQA/dcBFr0zYfG+D7GDzgBKvfoaCE0Vj qXu1dCxubBK9/o1V39wLyruo+Z62E31pRMQdJA93CuDDCkstU7/dRlvKs9LDxhC/RzXt +8ol2MACjvxDhixyX7nUNscqMuRpg2Y+tdCZs83fDLRXrfp0o5KTSMkga9N+Ky54RHKc w6UnnRVDv8LJeE4XWinOGqe5wGTYkA+PDw1nX1u9egKS+n6T+YcD2KfRq8VixQg3/Tc3 VD1U6szXFlCav+YNnd/A0R6yE4WSnspc8YjtlNHXo4tgw6Avss1YEH02swGVlL8yuMqt 0UNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qjOSQvphnJWz9RVNmYXnjQegJSE82nlSpujOzbLEA3Q=; b=mjNvthLCitK+d1vcBnDjoc68vOSLAlD7noEkGLTknaCHwehIam9iNG41utMNYDAQw7 k8+4DOtfxCrMNEbMfjMOVTesIEL+zHnQyqrjEVQtd2Vy9je8WFuFKbkkJYa1TBgrADaW nLQA7YMFaK9n7IQj+sK2SUEAUllu2BM8mREtqQtqr5ISSKTGLUEO+u7h3RSuqarib+ya Q+ofZnlrQArmHff4A5LCjO7JRd2ijDPgOO95wvYG4bX8OMLW+Kgl3l6G0oxPxF2iK7XB IcNqUvKESEisNtpFaAsVq/ov3Yh2JusfnFOZYrDU9La7gnwJ8RJcgbz4UgDbXQ37ME6u H4xw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530q/3gSQRCGTSfa4vFFqeU9YTQpuKz1SJiItZAt4+tmrBYwa1IB PaqgcTi8fR60iL2Hq+DTKgcioyes2FjQBDCRpLIjeo24h9QTag== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxsfjd+lTBG78VAtkHYgJQB37xxViH4yDV3eFB42qKrHWHpf96l15cI+D7WQwmdPDBIFzGWsarsD6jrhkS2xYc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:7f12:b0:6f4:57e7:b20a with SMTP id qf18-20020a1709077f1200b006f457e7b20amr1003825ejc.538.1651804448869; Thu, 05 May 2022 19:34:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 19:33:57 -0700 Message-ID: To: Make-Wifi-fast Cc: homaesf@mit.edu, medard@mit.edu, alecohen@technion.ac, usana@ua.pt, nmal@av.it.pt, tania.s.ferreira@av.it.pt, dmgraposo@av.it.pl, eurico.omdias@av.it.pt Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] death to retransmits in mmwave X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 May 2022 02:34:10 -0000 "Our results demonstrate that the communication protocols can notably take benefit from relaxing the PHY and MAC layer error control mechanisms, and delegating the task to the upper layers using the proposed network coding solution. In fact, the retransmissions that occur due to MAC error control mechanisms are effectively not needed once the network coding solution and FEC mechanisms are utilized..." see: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2205.00793.pdf I really wish more folk working in this field were aware of how minstrel works, being that it's only been the linux kernel default for 15 years: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/minstrel/ I'm not saying it's applicable in this case, but combining the two approaches might be interesting. --=20 FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_code= l/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC