From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x12c.google.com (mail-il1-x12c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0071A3B29D for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 08:32:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-il1-x12c.google.com with SMTP id a11so8751788ilj.6 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 05:32:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fKlN8OQkr5XxjbRWovo/x02CGbFCRFlxx/ItvvCizwY=; b=IzchvaWWIE/pfH3oO/Qti0CdIDOgsnNvY/hAX4E16VMEqTYzGQJLShZv7z7wIB+/Er JfzSTWqmDNSMrfkw/1Eg37CwbyNdWrg3/UW9pvW/crZ1JSsVsQo4Ypb2KHF1j6x+VhPl llY0ztMsGorfqtoHmiMJQ+5FaMmpne43YEiHGEIcJG41g0GSfnNnFqMgPThevw6tD31V uNpA1vExelrwOllOSRHy7QCABWSdvCewtdB30q8KE4D9c0/tXl6UqJKeeJch9g4G6kyp RDQRWH7MyjfbLK385RESXClq+Sb3UqseVf+v0u7un8mkDjMEi2fowc1hhRIXgZMSYV0N zx1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fKlN8OQkr5XxjbRWovo/x02CGbFCRFlxx/ItvvCizwY=; b=jwW9FySRfRWOgKTN1T493dww0We/YcqTWSO9MVD2WHKV5Xj2QmwBgxIzS3mREoVrKw 4kdLLt7Y6sLNIZArFGoV+JQCimt5EBTucU6w1yx2V76VlJeZNrKrUeNlJi8WR3qgNxoj NggN3/Xu3HYVSp6kmoqXO4J4h19c/w2UIELmN8wo93n10LN8P4jePSk9W3SrygFPbjVp RSAV2vUBqvFnRMYzrzguuF/4VsSIGsf4GPee3yTbtUjSDajfQHd7yH3XRa7TDrnIqcSi RXlETHjQBysUyJWJceG9mNeqmAwevffN+GHmUvcBQyiJ7X++eL2RrNvwR0cZqOXm42ZH lkcw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533mvOgHEsC0JXJAog29I4y0IHHSSx4XLrLHtXmw57GwJUuwm0W6 ryq7qntSuiYgWvp4kHpwOUshyihxlYY96BciwxHHRKcp X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz4uBWX5kxdj7GcFmoz4ILi7rQioYEuGmVY04mhTd8RF+s6S+9RDm1oTweUvjcFawl7z9YK6YevIQIFrfduePQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:16c9:: with SMTP id 9mr29731091ilx.221.1637933555125; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 05:32:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87pmqn9jy7.fsf@toke.dk> In-Reply-To: <87pmqn9jy7.fsf@toke.dk> From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 05:32:23 -0800 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Minstrel-blues finally getting upstreamed? X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:32:36 -0000 Groovy. I had had high hope for that, but it wasn't borne out by results back then, but, oy! did we have other problems. The big thing I think modern wifi needs is saner hardware retries, and reduced size txops under contention. I do wonder just what the air environment looks like nowadays with our new l2 meshy bridged overlords. OfDMA offers some new opportunities here, and I do hope we end up using the 6ghz spectrum wisely. On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 4:32 AM Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > It seems there is some effort in this direction... > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/CAChE-vT1UMw2iadzuzsUPEcAopi=3D86N= 4GV_b4=3DchZbSvap3x=3DA@mail.gmail.com/ > > -Toke > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC