From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x135.google.com (mail-il1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFE4E3B29E; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:44:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-il1-x135.google.com with SMTP id d6so6701318ilo.6; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:44:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tYCNuo9V8oomuIskR+ZLNrZgP3vOdXelDi0OMt9l04k=; b=N4TDhUIGjVjo76trLSspNykvcqN6o5ARpGv62Mn5cSGsAq4v6OakQbWbMnI/c28TP3 dKXMvpGJnU6REmYAjy51xWvVWbsp2adF5kNaEV9WaSBIZTcLRJxO3Z9o2/zqx728EsoC cGUV6NqZG4IGXdKvFNe0hYFgtF0rtCes5Z9dkCjdxeDs68B5FAOLP3bVXpPTvVqIzUqK FmvznD8Xspdi/mOTYLIGDGZDkHZMMNhsSCWrEpM2q3Z3nQxDWM8GvndgMVcHhGYLcyUp CXxVWmG95G9dfbThvEWoAQkUXZnfamyIoC5BQatHHuzhVCgxkPx1AtLK/mkn+YOyvga6 WgLg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tYCNuo9V8oomuIskR+ZLNrZgP3vOdXelDi0OMt9l04k=; b=P6lXtqG1mZRRkNuwNPWojD4mu8t2gZrb3IeZ4tJdc8YZgPaJYwI4lkGLVjEd7tBIqI fzmBE481a6GiixUV0chJQ3n4nD4lyjvHKLOAqpnHXyQjbM+qqvzK1vOezx0dAb+YkqeY pXnXfjaJAcsc+0JDTsw3AObgPCFQM9uMNCOWBwapaXkD0L/Oa5qUsDi18dgCGzpEdOdW jJ+f8KMEfzrOz4q/nqTo3SFP9H90o8AQZ0ICp22mhoYprVgjkpKLeeimciBFVZSFEXej F1pPLiR2wzag2e7E79NlBUdggQFPSSPSW3IBHr/E73boGi656zBLnRbYqZoPr5aGPmLQ PBXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533DDrHgNBNk44wyunT02fFJizpIM5XY+OTTJyTDIi2gAO40jf+0 0lwBua5Xle+hqBM26X5BEUiuSfIFUbrWxi/yl87n4MoJmwh6hg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwPU34lBnXhw25w+lBxEoMHKlDoCv+eqGH/1CVsUHuf1CWKjp5PfTcbX+T/Z08zEWaZx2CtmmysLUHd2BgDIF0= X-Received: by 2002:a92:50d:: with SMTP id q13mr784805ile.287.1611870286970; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:44:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:44:35 -0800 Message-ID: To: bloat , Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] prep: shuttleworth flash grants conference feb 21 - 26 February 2021 X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 21:44:48 -0000 I think this is a recipient - only conference, but I was invited to participate, ( a flash grant helped pay for our battle with the fcc and we had tried and failed to get a shuttleworth block grant for make-wifi-fast) I would like to put together an updated preso on the state of the bloat, as well as maybe have a session about videoconferencing. https://ffwd.flashgrants.org/ I'm pretty out of date, I think, on developments in the past year. And it's been a while since I said anything in public, and after reviewing much of the existing materials, it's pretty evident that a few things on the website need an update, notably the sqm page could use links to more products and cake. and the cake doc needs love. Also: did the lwn article die? I'm willing to tackle the sqm page (after I remember how to use hugo!!), but most on my mind is that we have at ton of good QoE for videoconferencing here, but no objective measurements to speak of. Is there a webrtc based QoE measurement tool available? I've been fiddling with galene, of late, and in part, to test that!!!, and get caught up with everyone, perhaps next week some of us could try out my new videoconferencing server a bit? (please send availability to me privately - I'm most available between 8am and 2PM PDT wednesdays). If anyone would like to exercise the galene videoconferencing a bit before then, I can frequently be found here: https://tun.taht.net:8443/group/bufferbloat but best to give me a heads up via email. --=20 "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman dave@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729