From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32f.google.com (mail-wm1-x32f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DC033B2A4 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 10:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x32f.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-4129738cc81so2995795e9.3 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 07:54:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1708703639; x=1709308439; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=FOpNWomgUJRqR5C1lAV74UIATE2CejHJkhN1aZWAmZs=; b=P/YFjpAij1j0j2giu5Au/9HrUJxT6iLiqPVmUkB1DGyPGj+RtrV60VpcGCSxUEDIIx 0CfcF5MdzOqgyDrTInGp2RJWt1SM6Q+AijyTTkFOyJTkj0Fwm22JM8usKA0jqrr6WxLF uACEYPpCGTBXZ2l7aXsrwSwC4+CcjbqeSz72oMewsalHCWDJpLbEOH9ifiCcW1cVZBqL 8dVNGsGTok1w6Tg+GyWfIRM5K37GRg9G/POGsQyCUALDFsWL17+j4meoRrCLII2Wt8uX Yld2jPj3XfKK//ooP/y49swdaP8znLUBcyo4T/FvudTBh2RRKd/Ur7Xh6lrCCBjkJonV dqDQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708703639; x=1709308439; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=FOpNWomgUJRqR5C1lAV74UIATE2CejHJkhN1aZWAmZs=; b=p17tuY8Zy4Ks4e+bOWvgUPqTAdB/ARCW24RljXJ0XLdLuHW08mRamO07dKIqsg66bL vjCY28l/r97e8ALvv+dwmvdB0hEhMk5Znr3AEyVAofCEywVrpd/ICgHXi7VKqL5ZXhNA gJ1hMGDzK61byUWADC7WbgdBov9KloguC9x3Vnjy9lJxyagOsjxDMK57kndn3DngdGdP wdjVX43YJnovr9ixrFnlzpN7RZcIdn8UIxLszF0EDsHc/aL4DOtNr0XeQRUUCn+J8buC XQFt6OcGaCyVynn7HTCrUgJvBizlFJewqjSgQw+PT8b6DodikL+RfI0BKx9QmZaM9PaB JBqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyjmfgK0Epq67yEwEfNRSvoLikKcx64c2ywWUzX/PKUHJDDR9xg xCi/Y1ORgw4snK4uatdJWE6p4AY8kcRjSfu9ibYH4SR3QSmGJnJejBQ6hynsfChgw2OMkK3aMoN bXG6T/AdnHa9EYMN8EW+PxdLus86Wv+cZbYU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGfb3ZvQCQIpM9+3TlRgisU0Lhns6XnbBjBdKHZvLWnJz1aeoAE800JnQuUxHtbXH9FKwx5us+OQqWtv96mvAU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:4504:b0:410:656c:d6d with SMTP id t4-20020a05600c450400b00410656c0d6dmr165895wmo.18.1708703638971; Fri, 23 Feb 2024 07:53:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 10:53:47 -0500 Message-ID: To: Make-Wifi-fast , discuss Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] wifi tv antenna count X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 15:54:00 -0000 It is still not well understood that wifi performance is dragged down by the performance of the most distant and demanding device, despite what I hope is wide knowledge of the wifi performance anomaly ( https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1208921 ) and the related work in "Ending the anomaly". It occurred to me, today, while wrestling with a tv struggling to stream 4k video over wifi, that perhaps it was possible to determine what tvs had more than one wifi antenna, and how well they were being used (total airtime). Is anyone tracking that? Simple methods like scraping the sales lit might be used, and or instrumenting the APs. --=20 https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/2024_predictions/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos