From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
"make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Thoughts on tackling airtime fairness
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 09:41:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5=4b8Ew8Rp_K0nRvj=zJ=sZiS=f80EecBQFSwnXpfZoA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHx=1M53VsfHvy3J2jJcpbSRMUFNXge-RxghNS6VAkJPTtb=mQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Luca Muscariello
<luca.muscariello@gmail.com> wrote:
> Correct, but in between that time and now a lot has been done in different
> areas but not much on this point.
> The fact that some part of the industry is looking at LTE-U is also because
> 802.11 standard is not good enough.
What do you think of LTE-LAA?
I do think very strongly that actual usage of 802.11 can be made
vastly more efficient, that we can use up a great deal of the mac
currently being left unused, and schedule txops way more efficiently -
and that I'd love to test with michal's patch set against the LTE-U
tests cablelabs, etc which did
100 stations before (stock):
http://blog.cerowrt.org/flent/drr/10tothe5.svg
after
http://blog.cerowrt.org/flent/drr/newcode.svg
I became mortally opposed to LTE-U (lacking exponential backoff and
ignoring sparse station behavior, as well as today's crappy wifi
drivers - along with some very dubious benchmarks), but have not poked
much into LTE-LAA.
I freely admit to loathing the 802.11 mac, and IF LTE-LAA could be as
open, accessible and usable to ordinary users as wifi was, would be
more embracing of it.
>
>
> On Wednesday, 11 May 2016, David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Luca Muscariello wrote:
>>
>>> It's surprising that 802.11 standard never considered time fairness in
>>> the
>>> EDCF. A reason might be the time fairness might be enforced using the
>>> PCF.
>>
>>
>> to be fair, at that point the rate variation was 1Mb - 11Mb and wasn't
>> expected to change much during use.
>>
>> David Lang
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-11 16:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-11 12:19 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-11 12:55 ` Luca Muscariello
2016-05-11 13:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-11 14:48 ` Luca Muscariello
2016-05-11 15:10 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-11 15:17 ` David Lang
2016-05-11 15:20 ` David Lang
2016-05-11 15:28 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-11 15:33 ` Luca Muscariello
2016-05-11 16:19 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-11 16:29 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-11 16:40 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-11 16:33 ` Luca Muscariello
2016-05-11 15:07 ` David Lang
2016-05-12 15:59 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-11 15:04 ` David Lang
2016-05-11 16:09 ` Luca Muscariello
2016-05-11 16:41 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2016-05-11 18:13 ` Dave Taht
2016-05-12 7:26 ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-12 8:21 ` Luca Muscariello
2016-05-12 8:40 ` David Lang
2016-05-12 8:48 ` Michal Kazior
2016-05-11 18:28 ` Luca Muscariello
2016-05-11 18:35 ` Luca Muscariello
2016-05-11 15:03 ` David Lang
2016-05-11 15:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-05-11 15:24 ` David Lang
2016-05-11 16:35 ` moeller0
2016-05-11 23:25 ` David Lang
2016-05-12 6:41 ` moeller0
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