A bit ranty below. I did set out this christmas to finally kill the last fq_codel vs wifi set of bugs I knew about... only to encounter another, new one. On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 4:57 AM Rich Brown via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > I wanted to cite the Make Wifi Fast home page (https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/) in a Reddit posting, but didn't. It seems to refer to four-year old information (from 2018) I hoped more C suite folk would read the project plan... back then... > Could someone who knows more than I do update the page to indicate current status? I have been trying to get my workflow improved to work on the website(s) again. It's on my top 4 things of things to do next year. First up tho, is getting back above the poverty line. I was (and remain) very burned out on wifi in general; the failure to find further funding for that project, after our inital successes, still hurts. Seeing it finally deploy 4 years later - in openwifi, and elsewhere - to rave reviews - is a high, but we had so much left to do... I do point people to toke's paper and the graphs there https://www.cs.kau.se/tohojo/airtime-fairness/ rather than make-wifi-fast. https://lwn.net/Articles/705884/ I would LOVE it if make-wifi-fast could be a thing again, but I often suffer from a lot of PTSD, being unwilling to suck all that data into my head again, even reflashing a router takes dedication - and wish there would be some sort of corporate takeover of the project's goals outlined there, more than wanting to drive it again myself. Meta, anyone? Some group of ISPs that recognize that without wifi working well, celluar will eat their lunch? Some set of governments that use wifi? I find it mind boggling always that there is so little investment or investigation into how well wifi is working... Moving to the website... A problem I have in touting our successes then, is the reality now, is back to being... not as good as it could be, on at least a few new products. I did get a nice new chromebook (which doesn't let me hack the OS at all) over christmas, and a wifi6 AP, running openwrt head.... and it looks like this... AND I CAN'T TAKE A PACKET CAPTURE OF THE !@#!@ air from the chromebook because I'm on the wrong side of a container jail, and Anyway, I did hack out the most bothersome set of bugs we had left over from heaving make-wifi-fast over the wall, but this bug aint it... we're seeing very few drops from codel, and this enormous latency spike every 5 seconds.... I HOPE this is multicast... but I can't get at the data with the wifi6 box I have... Iv'e seen apple products do similar weird periodic things like this, probing for a p2p connection while messing up everything else. I'd hate it if this "facility" had made it into chromebooks too. > > Another thought: Do we have a one-page summary that shows the benefits of using these techniques? I bet a couple paragraphs paired with a few of the published charts could be compelling. Thanks. Is there any chance, from anywhere, there would be some sustainable funding if we sunk more time into it, and I dropped my cynicism for long enough to feel positive again about the future of it? > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast -- This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC