From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk0-x22b.google.com (mail-qk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22BEF3CB3A for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:01:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id d18so8963700qke.7 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:01:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WkmHqPlGjnE0xl0qq5HzbfYP7hSwMN8qfLgXWpXiIxg=; b=mGetCb0AgBbLajzn8+Q7GwrxD/AHRt9MRDQhK/rCucfu7blOAXws1vISsCPaPXihTK BcErTK9/T4Gdg/i85O1H51ASQEFtNF+g8kk1DtmFs+xJkNjaZ5OlQwLhg+O7EHok9ruH xAAiiv8Ufj0bLsTKuhKNIhXgFsEMMR1HfSRhmccM8t8uh2X3NcAH39ACs5m9X9xFJb3J +TfqlpHxMMGIlnxSlbcyOpUNXluQBi7Ofu7Nn+dys17EdeumTmEaOuBEDmj9duwwpbv8 eCCnKpLmSvqKev7K1QCxf2iXW6Mjsa13qs/o7gjBTQyrQU6+rwAP+mGHVRd/TiivT9+e ITIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=WkmHqPlGjnE0xl0qq5HzbfYP7hSwMN8qfLgXWpXiIxg=; b=UP3xjnse1MHruXkZe0rrUlguU0xRQ58tfa1uXAR4q3GXYOxGIqWe3DzG243C9Pg0Rk j3iFrExGIGZgNrkbhyRl6ofvDCmhWp1AqoWr0eiVwPEQCOL8K3a5ofyEQpOHM5LdCl6j iqJ4c3FZCcbIOa4pLGyHjB+TDydtEpac4MOYmrAqK3QM78saMnCqHfsp6itC2O6LCuV6 eAx7tjB3dJlT/F9w+mQ+1J5JsDFlAFkCcTYmcsBkp5bRSGOhFcw5tGQRKA/GJs2L28QR OhwunusDBfEZAkDncKo7arOvjl4B/uWNY/rHQeoZc81lQ3Ch0Ah4reSGVnzO+O4CNVrd 1ZTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytd4XDXdhvOnuhbqShRLJaNsES8bm88waO738XYZS3sTY03agG5u T+k9AsLSKvD6EuuhZfZeOfL+FjQoJa2ya2/yGOU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBosia42/1xd8VEF8s41h8/q236L/4jMyQXTkVIZUl+kVpeWezX+WZcEK/6sieWzuUzQvRuBxJnU+gJhIiLpmPuI= X-Received: by 10.55.128.131 with SMTP id b125mr35697680qkd.17.1515769297637; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:01:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.148.168 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:01:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87o9lzqmsq.fsf@toke.dk> References: <87o9lzqmsq.fsf@toke.dk> From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:01:36 -0800 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Estimating WiFi congestion using different-prio pings X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:01:38 -0000 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 4:33 AM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen wrote: > Some people over at Skype have implemented a technique for a client to > estimate congestion at the WiFi AP by pinging the AP at VO and BE > priority and measuring the difference in response times. Pretty neat, > except that it would presumably break if the AP was FQ-CoDel-enabled... Well, it might not hurt... > Paper here, including a description of the bandwidth estimation stuff > they apply to Skype based on the information: > https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=3D3143361.3143390 Not available via sci-hub yet. :( > > -Toke > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619