From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com (mail-io1-xd36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C23753B2A4 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 11:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id 19so6680931ioz.10 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:05:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KTuffieBFBEREDUb7bdTp1VUZ5eBky/6PllCIjO1H3w=; b=g7GhPl380bqv1YEkA0nl96LZ8Rx0yfTWuvGdtZfmiiLX56INdTO/M+u/we3O/gFuG5 yHQ6l6ZE0fHOwuL/r4LuMcFjPTOMdDDnkBs7hPH95CvBtE9JIfWO9TBxWimoeOQ8+wVT 61OGtreLohGQmIa7NDRKpFK0vfZ892Gv3RTbSW9L5VSLLtLFAP+NGRF/d37XSZvJRewB a53pFkre08HE3BDWvNu4UosCLzKsoBMJapzFH2PFFI7dSTKDQGPPTzyjPPesXxQnaIMk WuKVb1haf0iFwhxWnux9T2eEfwXvMG5e64yMoGdMaEWAFA+Fpa2cbUN3UEGa/ieIAChl J2gw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KTuffieBFBEREDUb7bdTp1VUZ5eBky/6PllCIjO1H3w=; b=nyIaFd5rSA39k4Iylkr1OEo//jh2x9ewNuNLgN+wzyKye2KFCWcnxZBkn1u6BMFs2c Lc6ALvDoltXzVaIQewDLwQxWTXgQqF1ExCMkYeUXBLjwP1RTEiH6ms+17WwCe3vrWJFQ C4C4qxuFGmAHXJz7uCBW5CwHXSsxTrVk/lnVR1kBWeK+ntay8+bTZLto6SFmuE6GvaP/ dyN7Ao1JsNi7TH2uIS3nVuxVPGw3q/9qglsjVeQVwbg2idldGV43N8CCRU7Szl5UBbEE kxPp33K6cgI0N7DgwB8EsDoYqQ+pgt59QegCkkdTysluwdTi13yFhwiAJeC15R5dmWa4 mJug== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuZ3QRDI0IzE0BoTV0HLFq5IYxxPzupFyGdWtxh7s8ev3dkMdFIE u6jmuCVvPlA2uG96KAx89r+4uVk6/m4GLMkBnRE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKPPMnv4ZvexexJPVaK3ORXsjaXi9U07rO7Qpnyqfc14hSEBp/tvHTFBwzUNIQjO//IvRLJFH/qB2pQvrxDaLc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:b8d6:: with SMTP id i205mr4213855iof.123.1587654343128; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:05:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:05:30 -0700 Message-ID: To: Harshal Chhaya Cc: Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] fcc vote on 6ghz thursday X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:05:43 -0000 sure wish there was a chat window. i have some pithy comments to make. (The whole centralized db idea seems very flawed. you want my IP address once a day with my home routers exact location? DFS style autodetection seems saner) And then there's the 5G subsidy being discussed as I write. On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:32 AM Harshal Chhaya wrote: > > FYI - you can listen to today's FCC meeting at https://www.fcc.gov/genera= l/live > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:33 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > > > H/T to james. First reading - ALL wifi 6ghz access points need to > > report their location to a centralized FCC database > > via a yet to be written "AFC" system. Hmmm... > > > > more: > > > > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-363490A1.pdf (linked from > > here: https://www.fcc.gov/document/promoting-unlicensed-use-6-ghz-band= -0) > > > > Draft rules are in appendix A. They could have changed slightly > > between the agenda release on Apr 2, and the meeting/vote tomorrow. > > Final version will be published after the meeting tomorrow. Don't ask > > me how long that takes. > > > > For the very high level summary of the four operating modes, see III > > A, III B, IV A and IV B in the Table of Contents. > > > > III. Report and Order: > > A. Standard-Power Operations in U-NII-5 and U-NII-7 Bands > > B. Low-Power Indoor Operations Across the Entire 6 GHz Band > > IV. Further Proposed: > > A. Very Low Power Operation > > B. Higher Power Spectral Density for Low Power Indoor Operations > > > > > > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-363490A1.pdf > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > > > > > I just wish I knew what was required for an open source maker of > > > outdoor capable APs had to do. So far I haven't found the draft > > > rules... > > > > > > It sounded to me that outdoor use required use of a gps and active > > > ongoing registration into some FCC database. > > > > > > https://www.fiercewireless.com/regulatory/fcc-sets-all-1-200-mhz-moti= on-for-6-ghz-unlicensed > > > > > > =E2=80=9CWe=E2=80=99re stoked about what the 6 GHz band can do,=E2=80= =9D he told Fierce. > > > =E2=80=9CImagine getting 2 Gbps on your phone, that=E2=80=99s somethi= ng Wi-Fi 6E and 6 > > > GHz can accomplish,=E2=80=9D as well as produce latency on the order = of 2 > > > milliseconds or less, which is why it=E2=80=99s so attractive for thi= ngs like > > > AR/VR." > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Make Music, Not War > > > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > > http://www.teklibre.com > > > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > > > > > > > -- > > Make Music, Not War > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > http://www.teklibre.com > > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > _______________________________________________ > > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --=20 Make Music, Not War Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729