From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-io1-xd33.google.com (mail-io1-xd33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B0FB3B2A4 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 11:35:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd33.google.com with SMTP id b12so6801557ion.8 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:35:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W/i5OI7+IltuhCZsLBbhsUuoFA5KlLFjB1Os2kRCQr0=; b=doKp89ohfIdkmMPe83GF9d6I2V0bWPzdpNPsP8uMofHnKAFGHqtZAYav1sevNt5tEe h+fYHiuvt2KWPdhyuP9eMDC7qXVjPmwh7lfRftiDSoKlhuoeZYfWC1lrAtFc6p8DxIqU /hHDR2v3qzXmKnSS6O0qL+eikTYv9yw1O2b2AhyDPubXoHbfpJ2ZmRQmmVlCaJI2AQNw KWig3hr13QfEFa8CMdLBoZGulGLr1WaI/vmVYuxMrylIXVr8nKbt1+IjrYTjKzFRuM5h cSIaKQ6hwfu/DvmlPirGYmTYqEWkrMm2vPC4NRXaGbLpoDyuSysE5NHw6FaMo+2uQUCR AjAw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W/i5OI7+IltuhCZsLBbhsUuoFA5KlLFjB1Os2kRCQr0=; b=BkMqRx1RmetWNB7aVSyUhDkYUCNJSZbvztkE0V796Dxr93bbzkxV9KCDOh0jh2kC9v Ed9gUrbWARS6EN8+6LvvO1MvHW2SFgAqqG2aMFd5B+Nu0BTdvZR60vwEjPaMU1XsNvmO uooxWvXSqfPkudXrb8Wo5RNCHr/C84ZLQgI0bsGDPoa5y3aI6k4wm09qAduTg7p6JZoa rBOpgFEDq1LrepToWG50AGuORHbBD/a/1F3yYrfrtB3NgUHhe2O+M8GfeaTZPS6D+OPr lmsXpdnVwxxw7OjHO3ha62RdvSJNQpJZ8/9S7cEg4/guvA5vV1CgCfB3UY4DoQrSWWtj 0Akg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubtTtuSKb6biIjHbN0DoTXVFtJ1GhWPGf4HgZJse2fqCQ5mDk6P Jmizy7JgvgEmf+ULTTCRPQhy3dYyapOXjGyKTrs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJxCw+8rVZN3Joqoir/ihftT2yhPEKI5H3K5WFIMpIGCxF9SDbICr/yG7EI886uPF7TfnI3gOZzrQoNlk0zkRY= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:8b57:: with SMTP id c23mr4198658iot.161.1587656157993; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:35:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 08:35:39 -0700 Message-ID: To: Harshal Chhaya Cc: Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] fcc vote on 6ghz thursday X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:35:58 -0000 it was pretty neat to catch the orbital debris talk! But I guess I missed the 6ghz preso? On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:05 AM Dave Taht wrote: > > sure wish there was a chat window. i have some pithy comments to make. > (The whole centralized db idea seems very flawed. > you want my IP address once a day with my home routers exact location? > DFS style autodetection seems saner) > > And then there's the 5G subsidy being discussed as I write. > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:32 AM Harshal Chhaya wrote: > > > > FYI - you can listen to today's FCC meeting at https://www.fcc.gov/gene= ral/live > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:33 PM Dave Taht wrote: > > > > > > H/T to james. First reading - ALL wifi 6ghz access points need to > > > report their location to a centralized FCC database > > > via a yet to be written "AFC" system. Hmmm... > > > > > > more: > > > > > > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-363490A1.pdf (linked from > > > here: https://www.fcc.gov/document/promoting-unlicensed-use-6-ghz-ba= nd-0) > > > > > > Draft rules are in appendix A. They could have changed slightly > > > between the agenda release on Apr 2, and the meeting/vote tomorrow. > > > Final version will be published after the meeting tomorrow. Don't ask > > > me how long that takes. > > > > > > For the very high level summary of the four operating modes, see III > > > A, III B, IV A and IV B in the Table of Contents. > > > > > > III. Report and Order: > > > A. Standard-Power Operations in U-NII-5 and U-NII-7 Bands > > > B. Low-Power Indoor Operations Across the Entire 6 GHz Band > > > IV. Further Proposed: > > > A. Very Low Power Operation > > > B. Higher Power Spectral Density for Low Power Indoor Operations > > > > > > > > > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-363490A1.pdf > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 8:17 AM Dave Taht wrote= : > > > > > > > > I just wish I knew what was required for an open source maker of > > > > outdoor capable APs had to do. So far I haven't found the draft > > > > rules... > > > > > > > > It sounded to me that outdoor use required use of a gps and active > > > > ongoing registration into some FCC database. > > > > > > > > https://www.fiercewireless.com/regulatory/fcc-sets-all-1-200-mhz-mo= tion-for-6-ghz-unlicensed > > > > > > > > =E2=80=9CWe=E2=80=99re stoked about what the 6 GHz band can do,=E2= =80=9D he told Fierce. > > > > =E2=80=9CImagine getting 2 Gbps on your phone, that=E2=80=99s somet= hing Wi-Fi 6E and 6 > > > > GHz can accomplish,=E2=80=9D as well as produce latency on the orde= r of 2 > > > > milliseconds or less, which is why it=E2=80=99s so attractive for t= hings like > > > > AR/VR." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Make Music, Not War > > > > > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > > > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > > > http://www.teklibre.com > > > > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Make Music, Not War > > > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > > > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > > > http://www.teklibre.com > > > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > > > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > > > > -- > Make Music, Not War > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 --=20 Make Music, Not War Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729