From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x232.google.com (mail-qt0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8464B3B29E; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x232.google.com with SMTP id e19-v6so6052539qtp.8; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:34:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LDp3iK/q7xo71160jeSfnypj4kZMdKb8SeNEqXVsTXc=; b=SqnLZ+1KZhyFPWIBx94ByP54VX/i0Xs5W2lkWEUXjIGpax7fZB97GFnLY8+WMiTfhM cMFi0FkfbZ4ZlyM0k/x9QdjjJ6IP6fnmtBnLKiRYxIreAYPsI4axkdgCzBb2Sar5Amjm s9riyxc6Cx86KkjOJeFJOpMWE5E4mPjCDR/xZYp5Symmd0NPx3CHrEc4V11znLvljoFE FvLEQBSAXxMYqUMZxd5TwaA34PcY9nIJBJ7/TsKx/JkHpIRSRSkBY2GYMi52o8ZREFYL YKwhxQXVvgyORpj0TTHnZO9XVUD97ZXpxIgjiLIl3LDETUMZrrAs2vuSDpKy/jRbEmCn l50g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LDp3iK/q7xo71160jeSfnypj4kZMdKb8SeNEqXVsTXc=; b=ebhZ81UZV6RRHdyG4oFtXZ3OHiHIVvbO3vd6A5xiQ6w+jJYtZ/iewMYhRVCjMnJy8v CESKpaTY06auYAXu1ipIgOMiV7AeCm0WftXx+kqii0X7ZMZT47NmzTrWC2hmEQhcKTGz DTAeOB9xSsYOA/rum3zgGldjcBwCqhd8t1UaqkVfjBO21mLtht3zw/dfe+T9TmrcQ/kA mtDoBxet7mM5FlEfHBcZvsjXVyEaegDNtroNOTcRzoTUvMwxfLAnFrLns/rV8nQSLXMM pgdEW17dU+tp07IiIaZ338uFhH6lPG8xoYW8XFTLyuv2GKa7ES3caYrEAOE2orNvvCMZ tc2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlGWLC592T9zJvv9Ag+r2zCtHbpwzKJiab5Ul2te9wP3xrwZ8ooR ovN+rnlMeYl7Q4mvwgtFsHFiSwUn1fHpeDiR7P0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcFwk7zfdh6Tp4QpXd9nfDw+yqF+OE5YzG9jcFz2ErioQkrTquR7IlYYRdCyGgUtQSQ5Hh9/9A3Bg7QORd87sQ= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:266b:: with SMTP id v40-v6mr19023204qtv.104.1532478850067; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:34:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <22AC529F-9EF5-4ECF-85DD-F9ED08CD3C47@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <22AC529F-9EF5-4ECF-85DD-F9ED08CD3C47@gmail.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:34:29 -0700 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Morton Cc: Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] gaming dscp codepoint? X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:34:10 -0000 On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 5:06 PM Jonathan Morton wro= te: > > > On 25 Jul, 2018, at 3:01 am, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > cs4? > > > > cs4 and cs5 end up (typically) in the (oft buggy) linux vi queue on wif= i. > > > > ef? > > > > do any of the gamers here observe any codepoints in use? When I > > surveyed this a few years ago, I saw very little usage, and what > > little there was was all over the map. > > If it were up to me, Wasn't my question. Do you observe any of your games using any codepoints? >I would use EF for realtime position/command updates and voice comms, CS0 = for everything non-time-critical (like matchmaking, garage, shop), and CS1 = for downloading patches. Well, I was leaning towards cs4. I no longer remember what ef maps into on linux wifi, particularly since qos_map_set was created for hostapd. Is openwrt tweaking that at all? These days my aps do not use 802.11e at all and I'm about to push a change forcing a max of 2ms per AC via the beacon. Clients on campus don't seem to use much dscp but I'm certainly seeing ecn from apple devices now. > > Reason is, EF is the only DSCP I can count on being interpreted as "laten= cy sensitive" rather than "for video streaming". > > - Jonathan Morton > --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-669-226-2619