From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
"cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] wifi airtime fairness patches could use eyeballs and testing
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:43:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6L3mor5dOO4941UBkO2UpbWPWaqA6QwdoGcWeE4XbKgg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8737mc9rav.fsf@toke.dk>
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> On 11 Aug, 2016, at 01:05, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are cwnd reductions, yes, but are they drops? My thought was
>>> that they were retransmissions caused by OOO packets?
>>
>> You should be able to find the retransmitted packets, in that case.
>> But FQ shouldn’t be reordering packets within the same flow.
>
> No, but the WiFi retransmission logic might. Specifically, the ath9k
> will put packets in a retry buffer that takes precedence over new
> packets when building aggregates. But since it has one or two aggregates
> built already by the time it does this, reordering can occur that way.
>
> Now, digging in to the packet traces (looking at the single flow case,
> since that is easier to follow), there's a ~320k segment of the sequence
> space that is about 1.5MB and 200 ms late (sequence numbers 10044929
> through 10370177 show up after sequence number 11617665 at around the
> 12k packet mark in the trace). This is nine full aggregates being
> reordered.
>
> I'm not really sure the reordering mechanism described above can account
> for this, unless there are some pretty serious hardware buffering going
> on that we are not aware of. Does anyone else have any ideas?
From a bug finding perspective, disable fq as per the original patch,
and try again, look for reordering.
The question I have is does this also happen on x86? A thought is that
we're interacting with a mips specific bug in header parsing...
>
> -Toke
--
Dave Täht
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Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-10 11:28 Dave Taht
2016-08-10 13:06 ` Noah Causin
2016-08-10 13:11 ` Dave Taht
2016-08-10 14:47 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Täht
2016-08-10 15:04 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-10 19:35 ` Dave Taht
2016-08-10 20:06 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-10 21:50 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-10 21:58 ` Dave Taht
2016-08-10 22:05 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-10 22:07 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-10 22:18 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-08-10 22:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-11 6:43 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2016-08-11 9:16 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-08-11 9:38 ` Jeremy Harris
2016-08-14 22:21 ` Dave Taht
2016-08-14 22:49 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Aaron Wood
2016-08-14 23:02 ` Dave Taht
2016-08-14 23:04 ` Aaron Wood
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