From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qk1-x731.google.com (mail-qk1-x731.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::731]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E5ED3BA8E; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 16:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x731.google.com with SMTP id f62-v6so6522064qke.2; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 13:11:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DUaK9pk+dcbKzC25iOa/YgAnKWtFIuhbjjr27LyRFwU=; b=Np3JpBlg6ws+6DJKRFRvW7FZ+HOQKY2nOVWg35275pStq5+11IInySGbp3KkOPN99I KtPeUMOGR9WD1dx+xBeGAwTU4Ikiqh6i/zw6WQyIBlHAdt6vUlYjKMqbei3BcXHjRRIN eH4CEQ92P9DyFIHNYdFTd4J0bNfDaLVstV/DPAzXbSAWIpJ/Zm8JAS07VQTjWTEq1hcl QiggYbFzQt40Fpngb9seHhhqT13LJo37eqWraBURL6Egv6tqMW4/qFS+4ncchB/LcFRh HEUCnmqNYQ0lHEZTO9zfd1YcGdb4pKer+Pox8EKAX3+ikLqOIYIJ5paS8LURF/vbPmPd MsVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=DUaK9pk+dcbKzC25iOa/YgAnKWtFIuhbjjr27LyRFwU=; b=oxWTI5AoA9tGiqurUb+oh62NwinbSq7PRgLMNbdTd7XMVRmFFw/F5rzBqMUk80OZKm nPkqog7r+CSDGd/3bMRBInmk9GKgZWEx1+lSZ+faVPpuZ6I5yIS5NhV6lUu5WUB5LSJr r3dXwM54fV6EoGZT3nS7pPZhMKkXhpJwma//0/KssOna0HokwrOUDvC5WZOso6u7QPDW 1Ju+A7eb6/0hRVVJM4gPqc+2i0KH5Sbb964mx58Th66sUC3Qu6VlGO9yCiHWEjKHPkhs iOVBbdLIMe49RXVhUYTd15h4l6X7C7DWD+DUr+OyemzjPtkVdyadEhjVAqaoR8PlneWd 9Vvg== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51D5Uo2/sgnZ12TD3+866z6PjlnsHMeL/yA7FQ6WpFfO9uk7LZon boAzesaVDdNfzMa5oIdCyKUwx2wCubH5zX5X+5b5An7J X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdYQESQeiTAVWEkpjB5E6xqIxv11+1MqFlaRQNPxqL+XWcKxl4DTuIMS7EHrs+Ua3W9YQhBqWeQdf91r7QW01TA= X-Received: by 2002:a37:6e82:: with SMTP id j124-v6mr3341765qkc.179.1536264671688; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 13:11:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 13:11:00 -0700 Message-ID: To: bloat , Cake List , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] The new ecn-sane project and mailing list X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2018 20:11:12 -0000 After clearing my plate for the past few months, I wanted to tackle something that keeps me awake at night. We just started an attempt to start taking a hard look at deployed ECN behaviors over the fq_codel, fq_pie, and fq_codel for wifi deployments: https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/ecn-sane/wiki/ As ECN has long been a sensitive topic... The mailing list has sprouted a few new rules to try to keep the noise level down: https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/ecn-sane/wiki/rules/ And there''s a "team" concept that may or may not work. I have so much data and papers in my head that somehow having a way to apply a stamp, a tag, to all that, that my hope was to try and tag and comment on papers and experiments to keep them all straight. List is here: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/ecn-sane If anyone would like to "formally" join the project, join a team, and write a position statement, please fork https://github.com/tohojo/bufferbloat-net or supply a markdown formatted file for it. Suggestions for additional "colors", behaviors and protocol options to look at, gladly discussed on the new mailing list. --