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* [Make-wifi-fast] not really huge on EF landing where it does in wifi.
@ 2020-05-20 16:33 Dave Taht
  2020-05-20 17:10 ` Jonathan Foulkes
  2020-05-20 17:31 ` Sebastian Moeller
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2020-05-20 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Make-Wifi-fast

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207368756-QoS-DSCP-Marking


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* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] not really huge on EF landing where it does in wifi.
  2020-05-20 16:33 [Make-wifi-fast] not really huge on EF landing where it does in wifi Dave Taht
@ 2020-05-20 17:10 ` Jonathan Foulkes
  2020-05-20 17:36   ` Dave Taht
  2020-05-20 17:31 ` Sebastian Moeller
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Foulkes @ 2020-05-20 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht; +Cc: Make-Wifi-fast

And with Cake, EF lands in the VoIP tin, even if a 4-layer Cake is specified. So it becomes bandwidth limited.

I use EF33 for Video in my Zoom configs so that voice is top priority, and video is still above BE.

- Jonathan


> On May 20, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207368756-QoS-DSCP-Marking
> 
> 
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> relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
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> dave@taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729
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* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] not really huge on EF landing where it does in wifi.
  2020-05-20 16:33 [Make-wifi-fast] not really huge on EF landing where it does in wifi Dave Taht
  2020-05-20 17:10 ` Jonathan Foulkes
@ 2020-05-20 17:31 ` Sebastian Moeller
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Moeller @ 2020-05-20 17:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: make-wifi-fast, Dave Taht, Make-Wifi-fast

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Why?
Given what a hog AC_VO is, I always thought it undeserved but good luck, that EF maps into AC_VI...
But I live in a reasonably crowded WiFi environment and hence do not try to optimize my own network in isolation as I hope for the same courtesy of my neighbors.

Best Regards
         Sebastian

On 20 May 2020 18:33:57 CEST, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207368756-QoS-DSCP-Marking
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* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] not really huge on EF landing where it does in wifi.
  2020-05-20 17:10 ` Jonathan Foulkes
@ 2020-05-20 17:36   ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2020-05-20 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Foulkes; +Cc: Make-Wifi-fast

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:10 AM Jonathan Foulkes
<jf@jonathanfoulkes.com> wrote:
>
> And with Cake, EF lands in the VoIP tin, even if a 4-layer Cake is specified. So it becomes bandwidth limited.
>
> I use EF33 for Video in my Zoom configs so that voice is top priority, and video is still above BE.

I have no idea anymore if AF33 lands in the VI queue. But both voice
and video SHOULD land in the same
wifi queue as to spare txops and ideally clients should deliver a
"batch" all at once so that we only request
one txop for it. A common pattern I'd see was a txop with one packet
and then a second one with the rest.

so many standards, so little time.
> - Jonathan
>
>
> > On May 20, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207368756-QoS-DSCP-Marking
> >
> >
> > --
> > "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
> > relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
> >
> > dave@taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729
> > _______________________________________________
> > Make-wifi-fast mailing list
> > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast
>


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