From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x12a.google.com (mail-il1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C52DC3B29E for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 13:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id j3so3966809ilk.11 for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 10:36:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7x+weyKhz6QaZyf0UAFtA2ygiRji9c5UfrVmyXyUCG8=; b=Eh9w5mC8CwCb8SVdsFAdz3chF47+ooMSTxmoybypXWIWvTGsfQ8/gLj0cSZ+OUVcAJ u+wTQudW5ByPjMOz4nMND+J44NPvDPiDPlpTpFUk2d2MSARP0XGGPVlvdGKMgeqMItWU 6I+Ssxv3m5cxRknaN3ottZ74/vQ7IUvF4WjDIKVnOMplKYX4fn9L1Y8AvzJLYwatbXUC Fd01cAoKFWqiMe58Cd8jIO11EI63kVI782OtBg0SVpd00oJnXQvM7yfxRGBeaQ0q2uPz X1I632/RpYCB7IZ4+L2KYlwKX+4yIu6MaPvGFtnfpj+bybByLNlWsJht9cCpUl4M1uGu OgPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7x+weyKhz6QaZyf0UAFtA2ygiRji9c5UfrVmyXyUCG8=; b=pTJWmFEDaX0JcXPeZIOleECtqwfJGKmgvv75EAM+i+eTn8hz6LZCeNah+raB508Ak6 s47Ns2raThySOjSXlDqK+gCZq8bV8trJccr6z2zOCTkHiS/cNhsEupaI0bMikS3UQAjY xAiGOa/vHT+QUGLrF6NrVxJD2n5OdUzL52BtITh6NKSD3HMvo7joqcRNg8okkVfmyFT2 93Dc+qE2OowZ6GnZMyOyTSivL79vx9RqXKwuGjtDekdUZluzUtXCeX+SfqJKctHxfzAS mnhLds2DnCd2bhWarx7NTTGhAjPzjJ4RtvVlvZ3ebiYMrGGK9v6MWQrB6LUfLvfkXBlD w0gQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532AVDb+350BEb0QkMRFeMMQDuls86MMagVJYEsUGcqw58X+FpvK qbU+l5+FGb2K7NE8zNS/23H6iNUfyjobZC427NOuRmcc X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyU9EmxHP6N3RS2mY9/8tZotdysiCiBvEUPKrq+AK65/aBfRi+kcjrCbigyVB637m15wh/huMTMi9+y3cGobR8= X-Received: by 2002:a92:3c99:: with SMTP id j25mr4808539ilf.249.1589996177274; Wed, 20 May 2020 10:36:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87181822-519D-4CF4-852A-84C1B7988E46@jonathanfoulkes.com> In-Reply-To: <87181822-519D-4CF4-852A-84C1B7988E46@jonathanfoulkes.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 10:36:05 -0700 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Foulkes Cc: Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] not really huge on EF landing where it does in wifi. X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 17:36:17 -0000 On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 10:10 AM Jonathan Foulkes wrote: > > And with Cake, EF lands in the VoIP tin, even if a 4-layer Cake is specif= ied. So it becomes bandwidth limited. > > I use EF33 for Video in my Zoom configs so that voice is top priority, an= d video is still above BE. I have no idea anymore if AF33 lands in the VI queue. But both voice and video SHOULD land in the same wifi queue as to spare txops and ideally clients should deliver a "batch" all at once so that we only request one txop for it. A common pattern I'd see was a txop with one packet and then a second one with the rest. so many standards, so little time. > - Jonathan > > > > On May 20, 2020, at 12:33 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/207368756-QoS-DSCP-Marking > > > > > > -- > > "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public > > relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman > > > > dave@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > _______________________________________________ > > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > --=20 "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman dave@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729