From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52f.google.com (mail-pg1-x52f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D7B73CB37 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 06:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg1-x52f.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-53fa455cd94so868545a12.2 for ; Tue, 09 Jan 2024 03:37:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1704800225; x=1705405025; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=p1/dSmIpFB0wldK1uP1oVOT6IitGonU/b0k7fV7Srmk=; b=MK7MHJZstwaO2CY0aXzGqMKF8EoQL3bRSqdDHdb5yTAz++buotQDodyCRS1FCoGE9f PRd0YMrn1frq32Sgw61LveHZXgkhIJNaa/CNaUw030vymUQjbj24chtGt3WQ8n9glUdY Ky1B0YZI25W8ltATUwMLV+zdVF1lcJlIr9KKmFP2POvucUkdu6L5qemKyPh3uYWZVXA2 jWV3LTCpyM+S4rWBh7Gfl+EAjC1u/iMyxE1qadXtB+qRhqAfIsxB0iaQVMGpM4db9a0I 2zz/VzHy+8b0TIoIqEDV/dCW1EVUACK/BdnB+CsPhlvrTgBBRnh7/Rd5cXOFStnZkPKQ yvqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1704800225; x=1705405025; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=p1/dSmIpFB0wldK1uP1oVOT6IitGonU/b0k7fV7Srmk=; b=QVT1HQnHCenY0IhBxk22yXYDgY4KjAtocreQ4nANx8JuTA38o2E0rnmA4/mzrBJbWA Xl85gPuAg96+nbft3MTc1AiVBAS0Ulqx+F5BuvGN2oMauZSOFJJ1dujahd1k/HVddfpX bZjNOyJc+ozJydqWQOL1K1egUhgRkdWQURGVBrBjDUa2LBllHXi29CvI0J93Bh2L8blm DdxXokBSr3uZ90Gn/nNhAhjTaV69AisROJVGqtTn4cjObYdq3wlo5wL7uu6tgBBnrKXX w8RCq/jwPRLOEO0y4D4cc9J8Ar4NIaNr3q4DcqFo0mgt+pfnU9LFUsWPgg0/5T3aX+dk yxrA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwpzUVWqU5zdG5+QaF9ZoawFpqea295IF8UMV7GDOYN9064q2sM 3SZL3sfBvS2G5JBe1ILrUvRKLER97ha/WdVE46U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEinx4kr9kTMH5zRreDzgttZ8wLBW4t5VCEjuC97sABEBibPVs+9TjC46+6B1io4rNIaVZ4iUao+x5xTmOxq5E= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:1253:b0:28c:d8e5:6105 with SMTP id gx19-20020a17090b125300b0028cd8e56105mr2030955pjb.96.1704800225104; Tue, 09 Jan 2024 03:37:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <877cki4vxq.fsf@toke.dk> In-Reply-To: <877cki4vxq.fsf@toke.dk> From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 06:36:52 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?VG9rZSBIw7hpbGFuZC1Kw7hyZ2Vuc2Vu?= Cc: Bob McMahon , Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] a cheer up tweet for y'all X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 11:37:06 -0000 On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 5:56=E2=80=AFAM Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen wrote: > > Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast > writes: > > > What are you expecting from chip makers? > > High-quality open source drivers, upstreamed into the Linux mainline by > the time the hardware ships, would be a good start :) > > Vendors seem to manage this for Ethernet NICs just fine, so it can't > really be a technical barrier that is keeping this from happening. > > If we're going further down the wish list, "no binary firmware blobs" > would be next as far as I'm concerned. Not holding my breath on that > one, though :/ Data Sheets with register layouts Sending internal developers to Linux technical conference like netdev and linux plumbers Participation in interop events (esp for wifi and 5g) An Open Source programs office Ponies > > -Toke --=20 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos