From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x434.google.com (mail-wr1-x434.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::434]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 335813B2A4; Tue, 22 Nov 2022 01:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr1-x434.google.com with SMTP id n3so6564785wrp.5; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 22:04:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Ja2YISYDA5Y1FoESo3XzFB/G7mh4rmPfnH2ZDw5EOX4=; b=cDCLtVArqzrew1o1A8PA4i/TuS6lVXRRS3iEX4n4fZAffyYwMxOBB5A/CcKbMSm8mJ PmFkR/WGIQSdk8aJYWN1UhnGbTWvEfOQXO/4wyPkddHCoWBn1OImdjWIKsdEu4sldJZ2 4lfeeY/Ppfo0OKnDadnkK/hA7Zs9BNsSFLnK3ZsRQgFKyJ+CAtq79MatHPL+tuTE2Aib ew3Dzei7rGPm/tzGHktUxTQQk1npPmff97yOuSSkId6Pfutvh+CjDN0MDvhDqPtJ7bdr BUZlNuHnzlTC3XuTW3sK9Is29/V1DboesTos2BFKxXT5JK3PK8YMd+oS6wUpxu1NQDtQ tQug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Ja2YISYDA5Y1FoESo3XzFB/G7mh4rmPfnH2ZDw5EOX4=; b=K5hT9q5CZcuVzxNw2vFJ2DZJzWOq8vwvTPwxyS+XxswUbTSppdM8SFO4C80aZ9dC5a PQtLj7MBfJaxnxsdFHtFjI39TrGPoaSfuvnZvGQDvp5TEvADTBDSoQZwXuoGZZnsIFsK vnhXxpcQX1ovOpOP3MHhCcPtTpVbG71otoih0Mnp3t7eGAVwEklipXMVqx0dO1lXonKP vXDMhwJNVJQ+0sg5urDGv+K5tcAJJNaRI0s1xPlSuhRSJTNrIBOY4F+MOo9yQTNugWJA 2zuiEsBR9oIZNYXW+fYaIVMn3rI03UI1pqoPTDT3ZLIdDj4L/+LO13Ph3c/Vl70YNsyT j74A== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pkVFGT72MCiDXhm0Ne9ZYxhcqV+tMXqH7GLUBQjLOWMRYjixyHS IT28ORJTsubn1uPaUm0nxDAk29DgYdeOO0yLe79r5PpxrvIopg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf66G67y5r+GmlOqXEFdu71bpCt5HKzmGq+nZVqMMckHy2O5ZGpeFLqT9Bip//UXSvlFQZuypzTSIcf2eMoiOGg= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5702:0:b0:241:df94:458e with SMTP id a2-20020a5d5702000000b00241df94458emr1803164wrv.430.1669097080019; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 22:04:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 22:04:28 -0800 Message-ID: To: Make-Wifi-fast , bloat , BBR Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] Aggregating without bloating - hard times for tcp and wifi X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 06:04:42 -0000 This paper came out last month. Good work, really exhaustive look at two chipsets, multiple congestion controls and the interactions with TSQ, with lots and lots of flent. https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=3D9772053 as for wifi6... don't make me start talking about wifi6... but some of these tests look like a good baseline to start comparing the ath11k, mt79, etc.. Paper kind of misses the negative impact of AQL in the ath10k (and most likely also the mt76 and mt79 chips) --=20 This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-69813666656= 07352320-FXtz Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC