From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x131.google.com (mail-il1-x131.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18F273B29D for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 16:32:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-il1-x131.google.com with SMTP id b5so3440816ilc.12 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:32:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ts+xWLkfaTZWgngzrGtuv2ygBh2tgHTDfOyKvfgUl78=; b=jd49W8wmj98kTkmXswOItPVxZgrAddOzvQp+Z70rjHSWPfSsOE8JuGa54Drb9KWDIg Cuz7O7C6f42H4AiF8DM/BY5D5GkUiC6ylA1JRwmA3fiWMMjpQ0PEu6xBqsOl5xLrPadO uwDYxyI9sBXuNFg1Ocoo2BugF4u0D/oXIM0+T9sXtgxqd7J/ekxwML1B1dmkPXTxP5D1 Uuk1I1HCPKAnl5r1sEXXVCkkuikwLFdpTkxDlNSr6uMZZzdlgir0kGSDozHJZ7xhxG7/ ZVNlcTDJWVtVLofCmnAKbot+Nj7G+UOKZACokOkCYh07IY+v2beU083dVbValey7DT3t nvZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ts+xWLkfaTZWgngzrGtuv2ygBh2tgHTDfOyKvfgUl78=; b=ar9rbQ8rHyPJU+UdJFloq5rkusNdbAAC7YHsVr3IeyhQooyr3tPtOdNW09q5uUXOZB Lrhc2J6ZBccZBUBL20uMeOSXHy+x3ETITYTWmyBvPvnJn2NQK5+Nwb02Zg0uSfcXZZ+P fP6E3cUDU0boiseWLrtChfsRNP/9i2/imcq9FnKaLoBf2doBiExpjzhdtRai420qgHAf MfehGcM7wfPK1GVapONqrCeJm+gmo36GQkfpqrlGR4F3Ex+8reftOn4OpF3rf5RpWPVH 3pA6SlKAT3h75VldU0K03DSmEip6SAtOULbl13yM3UhE+DpVmMSOBarNaJMdZe5u+Qbg yo9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Fi8DIrNHPaAVTznxiw7FPkaXIro9z+T0Kae+2E+f7Vm6ch+ek w+nh9oEYlq9gVfo2Xc1dexfcNgcF08eP/9sTz6w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyuH9Cc1knmotM/ktfEYutsjC2/J/tPrsy8MKcPK6bV/uE7iEEp7sa6eBcNfPXWnlUyQIcCVEs4lQhwrIamgAg= X-Received: by 2002:a92:da86:: with SMTP id u6mr66785iln.249.1623875553537; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:32:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1d6d9778-bb9a-c3d7-1ed9-47aca13183e7@timhiggins.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:32:22 -0700 Message-ID: To: Bob McMahon Cc: Tim Higgins , Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] linksys e8450 X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:32:34 -0000 On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:09 PM Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast wrote: > > hmm, I think measuring bufferbloat and calling it latency seems like a mi= stake. Sure, they're both units of delay, i.e. time, but they really are di= fferent engineering (and some physics) related phenomena. Apple has announced their new "RPM" metric, round trips per minute, and incorporated it into osx and ios on the "responsiveness" option in developer settings. > > Bob > > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:13 PM Tim Higgins via Make-wifi-fast wrote: >> >> I'm not planning on testing that particular router. But my new benchmark= suite includes round-trip latency tests using ping simultaneous with runni= ng TCP/IP traffic full blast. >> >> This Chart shows 5 GHz latency for all the Wi-Fi 6 routers tested so far= . >> https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/wifi-router/bar/247-mb_late= ncy_score_up_avg/44?see=3DP_B >> The results are a "Score" instead of latency due to the way the Ranker w= orks. >> Conversion to latency (ms) =3D 1/(score/1000). So the NETGEAR RAX80 late= ncy is ~ 6 ms. >> >> On 6/14/2021 2:24 PM, Jon Pike wrote: >> >> Any way to validate that? Or, is Tim already working on a test article= ? ;-) >> >> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 9:00 AM wrote: >>> >>> Send Make-wifi-fast mailing list submissions to >>> make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> make-wifi-fast-request@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> make-wifi-fast-owner@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Make-wifi-fast digest..." >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. linksys e8450 (Dave Taht) >>> 2. Re: linksys e8450 (Loganaden Velvindron) >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Dave Taht >>> To: Make-Wifi-fast >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 11:05:30 -0700 >>> Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] linksys e8450 >>> Felix tells me this ax router has all our stuff in it. >>> >>> -- >>> Latest Podcast: >>> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:679101428493678592= 0/ >>> >>> Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Loganaden Velvindron >>> To: Dave Taht >>> Cc: Make-Wifi-fast >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 22:52:35 +0400 >>> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] linksys e8450 >>> Is this because of the mt76 driver ? >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:05 PM Dave Taht wrote: >>> > >>> > Felix tells me this ax router has all our stuff in it. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Latest Podcast: >>> > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6791014284936785= 920/ >>> > >>> > Dave T=C3=A4ht CTO, TekLibre, LLC >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Make-wifi-fast mailing list >>> > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Make-wifi-fast mailing list >>> Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Make-wifi-fast mailing list >> Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Make-wifi-fast mailing list >> Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > > > This electronic communication and the information and any files transmitt= ed with it, or attached to it, are confidential and are intended solely for= the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contai= n information that is confidential, legally privileged, protected by privac= y laws, or otherwise restricted from disclosure to anyone else. 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