From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>
Cc: Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com>,
Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Wi-Fi 6 - how many of our assumptions does it violate?
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2020 07:41:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw7Qq9Co8u2u5NfudD=UUhHT84ut4VQicwhB_NQLB9RdEQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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What I had pushed for in multiple private meetings with multiple
providers was for wifi 6 to expose a per station API to the host AP
cpu. This
neatly rids the host AP of as much need to grok MU ( I really like the
potential in MU) or per station tx rates while still giving the
smarter AP CPU the ability to schedule stations, FQ packets and manage
bufferbloat. A per station API makes gang-scheduling more feasible in
MU-MIMO. There were many other suggestions made along the way
(privately) like having a transmit or receive is almost done
interrupt, "prepare!", and I hope some of those ideas were adopted.
I'd hoped of course to attract some actual paid work on wifi 6, but so
far have only a teeny grant to look over the intel ax200 mess.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 12:49 PM Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast
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> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 12:49:36 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Wi-Fi 6 - how many of our assumptions does it violate?
> I haven't thought this out but 802.11ax is very different per things like AP based scheduling of transmits (trigger frames), assigning to RU (sub carriers), and per STA tx power control. I think the implementations of these is outside the standard as well. Those writing traffic schedulers will mostly likely be impacted.
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> Bob
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> On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I saw this overview of the now-in-testing Wi-Fi 6 at https://www.howtogeek.com/368332/wi-fi-6-what%E2%80%99s-different-and-why-it-matters/
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>> Its multiple MIMO streams and maybe talking to multiple devices at a time seem as if they might be outside the assumptions we use.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-25 15:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-24 14:06 Rich Brown
2020-01-24 20:49 ` Bob McMahon
[not found] ` <mailman.389.1579898991.1241.make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-01-25 15:41 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2020-01-27 14:20 ` Rich Brown
2020-01-30 22:28 ` Dave Taht
2020-01-31 1:20 ` Bob McMahon
[not found] ` <mailman.414.1580433623.1241.make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2020-01-31 1:28 ` Dave Taht
2020-02-03 18:45 ` Bob McMahon
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